|
Post by hurtmagurt on Jun 4, 2020 16:05:19 GMT
Yeah, in the article Peter posted it says you can race 1 car your entire career and keep "upgrading" it to make it fit in higher and higher classes. That is Forza.
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 4, 2020 16:18:54 GMT
If the final product is as average as the trailer suggests then we have a few choices. We can continue to run our championships on PCars2 or we can use the upcoming new titles such as ACC and the Indycar game which is due for release soon. I’m fairly sure that Pcars3 won’t have the Indycars in the game so it looks like we shall continue racing Pcars2 until something supersedes it.
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 4, 2020 18:11:53 GMT
It's really disappointing and I certainly won't be parting with my money unless I see some proof that we are mistaken. What I don't understand is why? They've already got Grid for this kind of market so why bring out another similar type of racer which had a very different demographic.
The good thing is that in pCars 2 we have something that still has plenty of life left in it and the added bonus is there will be no need to upgrade to the new Xbox which I think most feared would be the case for pCars 3.
The downside is that I was really hoping there would be some extra ovals in this release but also that I think it will be another nudge in the PC direction for another chunk of the console racing community.
I'm hoping that ACC will give us the fresh face that we were all looking for.
|
|
|
Post by outsider819 on Jun 5, 2020 2:55:00 GMT
Indycar game which is due for release soon. I've heard rumblings for some time about such a thing, anything further you can share? Because if a good and realistic IndyCar game comes out I won't be able to fork over cash fast enough.
As for PC3, all we can do is wait and see. Shift 1 & 2 weren't so bad, back when I did the PC thing I played rather a lot of 2, it was really good with the UCP and some other community mods actually. So I'll neither cheer nor condemn after a single trailer, it really could go either way.
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 5, 2020 5:44:11 GMT
Indycar game which is due for release soon. I've heard rumblings for some time about such a thing, anything further you can share? Because if a good and realistic IndyCar game comes out I won't be able to fork over cash fast enough.
As for PC3, all we can do is wait and see. Shift 1 & 2 weren't so bad, back when I did the PC thing I played rather a lot of 2, it was really good with the UCP and some other community mods actually. So I'll neither cheer nor condemn after a single trailer, it really could go either way.
No news on anything Indycar i'm afraid so we will be continuing with pCars 2 for our fix of that. I was really hoping that pCars 3 would have some additional oval content but that's looking distinctly unlikely now. I agree re Shift 2, we had some really good racing with that amongst a group of us here years ago but we've moved on from that type of gane tbh and are all looking for something more sim rather then less. However, you are right that we've only seen one trailer and have to hold tight in the hope that what we've seen is just scratching the surface and that there is a more enticing side to the game to come. It will certainly not be a pre-order purchase now though.
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 5, 2020 18:57:44 GMT
Yet more evidence of where they've taken this...
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 5, 2020 20:30:00 GMT
I’m hugely disappointed by this, I was hoping for more in-depth sim racing not another boring Forza clone, it’s almost the Fortnite version of Pcars2. The majority of the Project Cars community is up in arms and most of the sim racing pundits on YouTube are less than impressed. In my humble opinion we need more realistic racing software not another dull remake of a format that is as uninspired as it is bland. To improve the standard of racing titles then we need competitors for ACC not less, I’ll bet that the people who make ACC were over the moon to see this limp and old concept being released in competition with their title. I hope that something good may come out of all this but I’m pretty cynical. I’m tempted to buy Forza MS 7 as it has more Indy circuits than Pcars2 and the newer Indycar chassis 🤷🏻♂️
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 5, 2020 23:28:16 GMT
I’m hugely disappointed by this, I was hoping for more in-depth sim racing not another boring Forza clone, it’s almost the Fortnite version of Pcars2. The majority of the Project Cars community is up in arms and most of the sim racing pundits on YouTube are less than impressed. In my humble opinion we need more realistic racing software not another dull remake of a format that is as uninspired as it is bland. To improve the standard of racing titles then we need competitors for ACC not less, I’ll bet that the people who make ACC were over the moon to see this limp and old concept being released in competition with their title. I hope that something good may come out of all this but I’m pretty cynical. I’m tempted to buy Forza MS 7 as it has more Indy circuits than Pcars2 and the newer Indycar chassis 🤷🏻♂️ Does it, what does it include Indycar wise? You can pick that up really cheap now too. Any idea when the next Forza comes out? I've pre-ordered ACC but pCars3 will be left for a while until some reviews are in.
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 6, 2020 6:58:18 GMT
Forza MS 7 Indy circuits are COTA, Homestead Miami, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Sonoma, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Long Beach, Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Virginia International and Watkins Glen. Not sure if the Indianapolis circuit has the GP track as well but clearly there are some excellent circuits that we could consider plus Forza has the updated 2019 Dallara Indycar chassis, I’ll have a look at this over the weekend
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 6, 2020 8:12:35 GMT
Forza MS 7 Indy circuits are COTA, Homestead Miami, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Sonoma, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Long Beach, Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Virginia International and Watkins Glen. Not sure if the Indianapolis circuit has the GP track as well but clearly there are some excellent circuits that we could consider plus Forza has the updated 2019 Dallara Indycar chassis, I’ll have a look at this over the weekend Shame no Barber circuit. I'll check it out too. Just the driving in that game that I've never liked but maybe it's better in 7.
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 6, 2020 13:10:56 GMT
Forza MS 7 Indy circuits are COTA, Homestead Miami, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Sonoma, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Long Beach, Road America, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Virginia International and Watkins Glen. Not sure if the Indianapolis circuit has the GP track as well but clearly there are some excellent circuits that we could consider plus Forza has the updated 2019 Dallara Indycar chassis, I’ll have a look at this over the weekend Shame no Barber circuit. I'll check it out too. Just the driving in that game that I've never liked but maybe it's better in 7. I’ve just started downloading it along with the Indycar pack, I’ll let you know what my conclusions are when I’ve done some laps
|
|
|
Post by Dale Rossi on Jun 6, 2020 15:21:11 GMT
Shift was very good, more sim than NFS and was the start of helmet cam iirc. Codies are really Jeckyl and Hyde. They do great things with Dirt and they phone it in for F1. Hopefully they don't water down PC3. I still find it incredible that in 2019, the Official F1 game doesn't have a single laser scanned circuit. If I thought they were going to go the Dirt 2.0 route and have actual enthusiasts working on it, I would be pumped. PCars 2 has very good rally physics and combined with all the DR series has, that could be incredible. But, they may go the F1 route and ignore customer issues while releasing DLC helmets, gloves, suits, and car paints (each sold separately). Judge's score? lol
|
|
|
Post by Dale Rossi on Jun 6, 2020 15:24:12 GMT
Looks like Forza 5. They destroyed it, IMO. Codies already has Grid, so who knows what the hell they're doing.
One thing is certain, KUNOS-Simulazioni has a huge opportunity here with consoles. Expand to more car classes and they will have a massive part of PCars 2 market. Look at PC2 leaderboards, 95% are wheel users.
|
|
|
Post by Dale Rossi on Jun 6, 2020 15:40:28 GMT
Yet more evidence of where they've taken this... It's shockingly in the wrong direction. Gran Turismo A Spec, while it didn't have damage, was a decent model on what they should have done for accessibility. Lessons and Licensing tests to teach fundamental car control. That's how to teach the new players that came to the game for a reason, to sim race. Otherwise, they'd be at Forza or Grid, Need for Speed etc.
|
|
|
Post by Dale Rossi on Jun 6, 2020 15:45:16 GMT
I’m hugely disappointed by this, I was hoping for more in-depth sim racing not another boring Forza clone, it’s almost the Fortnite version of Pcars2. The majority of the Project Cars community is up in arms and most of the sim racing pundits on YouTube are less than impressed. In my humble opinion we need more realistic racing software not another dull remake of a format that is as uninspired as it is bland. To improve the standard of racing titles then we need competitors for ACC not less, I’ll bet that the people who make ACC were over the moon to see this limp and old concept being released in competition with their title. I hope that something good may come out of all this but I’m pretty cynical. I’m tempted to buy Forza MS 7 as it has more Indy circuits than Pcars2 and the newer Indycar chassis 🤷🏻♂️ It may have the newer chassis, but you will be extremely disappointed with a wheel IMO. I've played Forza with a wheel off and on going back to Forza 4. It used to be fairly decent, but it is undrivable now. Standard cockpit view with no seat or FOV adjustments, no weather (it's stagnant with limited options... night, day, or maybe a rain option on some tracks that doesn't change in the race). I get it, though. There just aren't many options for console.
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 6, 2020 15:56:06 GMT
Looks like Forza 5. They destroyed it, IMO. Codies already has Grid, so who knows what the hell they're doing. One thing is certain, KUNOS-Simulazioni has a huge opportunity here with consoles. Expand to more car classes and they will have a massive part of PCars 2 market. Look at PC2 leaderboards, 95% are wheel users. I decided to run some laps on AC this morning and was pleasantly surprised with how good it was so I did some online practice lobby in some F1 cars at Silverstone which was awesome. If ACC could expand the cars available then they really do have an opportunity to take a huge chunk of the Pcars2 crowd who won’t enjoy the new game
|
|
|
Post by hurtmagurt on Jun 6, 2020 16:29:02 GMT
Come to the dark side. iRacing just released two new Road to Indy cars plus have the 2020 IndyCar, aeroscreen and all. All those Forza tracks (except St Pete), Barber, all the ovals. Come on Dave, you cant have anything left to spend championship bonuses on!?
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 6, 2020 18:57:13 GMT
I think this will push more people to PC. There was a lot of hope that pCars 3 was going to take us to them next level but now that has all but disappeared I think racers will be far more tempted by PC and iRacing.
ACC will hopefully provide some light but I think as it stands with the single format racing it will not be enough.
|
|
Joeri
Semi Pro
Posts: 72
Console Type: Xbox
Gamertag: joeriRSD
Location: Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
|
Post by Joeri on Jun 6, 2020 21:59:30 GMT
Come to the dark side. iRacing just released two new Road to Indy cars plus have the 2020 IndyCar, aeroscreen and all. All those Forza tracks (except St Pete), Barber, all the ovals. Come on Dave, you cant have anything left to spend championship bonuses on!? I was always doubting to go the PC route, but since I have touched iRacing, I barely have used my xbox. iRacing is definitely not the perfect Sim, but it has so many benefits over all other Sims. There are always races with equally gifted drivers, the special events (sharing one car in an endurance race) but it’s not cheap 😲 I was shocked when reading the previews of PC3. Specially when the CEO of SMS was tweeting how awesome their new game would be. I cannot understand how they came to make this decision based on their idea when launching the Project Cars series a few years back.
|
|
|
Post by hurtmagurt on Jun 7, 2020 2:12:35 GMT
I've yet to run a driver swap race. I do the Nurburgring series but those are 4 hours. That's about my solo limit.
Yeah it can get expensive but I hate to discourage anyone because of that. It's very front loaded and eventually you have all the cars you want and most tracks. The more you own the more you save too.
|
|