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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 19, 2018 14:41:16 GMT
If you have anything to discuss about the League or just in general about the Indycar's side of the game feel free to post it here
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 23, 2018 11:22:29 GMT
Does anyone have any thoughts on safety cars/cautions during races especially for the oval races?
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 23, 2018 15:47:03 GMT
I really haven't had any chance to look at this side of the game so far. It would be good from a reality and immersion standpoint but have they proved to be a problem in the game that you are aware of? Does the game fully implement the SC \ cautions rules?
We should look at getting in some testing with them really to see whether there is any problems with having them on in multiplayer races.
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 23, 2018 21:06:13 GMT
No the game has no real or virtual safety car. But with track limits turned off damaged cars should be able to use the apron on the ovals and maybe some escape road on the others. For the ovals it may be needed to get everyone fixed and back out and if people are too damage slow everything down while people return to the garage and/or leave the lobby so no one get lagged into the wall at 200mph.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Mar 24, 2018 17:38:59 GMT
I agree especially on the ovals that we will need some sort of safety car procedure, perhaps if 2 or more cars are involved and heavily damaged. If a single car is in a shunt, that driver will need to make their way back to the pits under green flag conditions,
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 24, 2018 17:42:14 GMT
Even with a single car it may be a bit iffy especially if it’s a hole lap. You just get too many bits fly around compared to the old game.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 26, 2018 7:33:35 GMT
Need to work out a cleary defined procedure for this then and get it added to the rules area for everyone to read and understand.
What we don't want though is every little incident being called as a caution.
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 27, 2018 4:15:24 GMT
Need to work out a cleary defined procedure for this then and get it added to the rules area for everyone to read and understand. What we don't want though is every little incident being called as a caution. What we have to be careful with is the volume of damage you get in PCars 2 compared with the first game. Even set to “Performance Impacting” the amount of debris can be pretty hefty and it’s all “live” and able to damage other cars for a fair while.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 28, 2018 5:47:51 GMT
Does the game clear that debris at any point or is it just left there? I've not raced an open wheel race up to now so haven't experienced this scenario.
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 28, 2018 7:04:16 GMT
Does the game clear that debris at any point or is it just left there? I've not raced an open wheel race up to now so haven't experienced this scenario. Yes eventually. Just not sure how long.
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 28, 2018 7:06:05 GMT
I’m also writing up some pit stop rules and looking at safety car stuff for you and Dave (LeMarrrr) to look at. We probably need to start looking at a Long Beach “in” thread as it only a week away.
😁
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 29, 2018 14:42:02 GMT
Yes I can put that up shortly. Bit concerned though that there has been so little take-up here. I have put the word out at several places and had a few interested parties but that hasn't progressed to anyone new actually signing up. As things stand it's us 4.. is there anyone else that has said they would be racing that needs pointing in this direction?
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 29, 2018 16:24:10 GMT
I’m not sure but I’ll message a few people and hit the forums.
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Post by Shneeb108 on Mar 30, 2018 15:45:08 GMT
Thanks for making the schedule every other SAT. Cool!
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Post by ReadingRich on Mar 30, 2018 18:49:33 GMT
Thanks for making the schedule every other SAT. Cool! It’s a carry over from last season. To be honest it was originally for selfish reasons as it gave me a weekend that I wasn’t doing super serious racing and could do other things.
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Post by ReadingRich on Apr 2, 2018 11:37:05 GMT
It’s nice to see more sign ups this morning 😁
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Apr 2, 2018 16:28:55 GMT
It’s nice to see more sign ups this morning 😁 Yep. All looking much more promising now. I put the feelers out and the response has been good with possibly others still to come 👍
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Post by niblips on Apr 4, 2018 13:27:13 GMT
So how is the pit stop and safety car/full course yellow stuff coming?
I gotta say I'm a little leery of a self imposed yellow flag period. There are a number of hurtles to overcome to make it work. It has to be spelled out clearly when it is called and who has to call it. All the drivers must agree to it and have the skill level to adhere to it without causing more issues on track.
Personally i've never been in a league where it was implemented so i have no experience with it. Also, there are only a few days left until the race and nothing has been posted about it. Unless it's spelled out clearly in writing before the race how can we know what to do? A brief talk in the lobby before the race will not be enough to ensure everyone understands the procedure. This is already a tough circuit and having to try and follow a self imposed SC period or yellow flag period only adds to the difficulty, especially for the first race.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Apr 4, 2018 18:55:03 GMT
Yeah I agree that anything of this nature needs to be clearly defined. Personally I'm not keen on them. For instance what constitutes a caution and brings out our 'virtual' SC. I don't remember needing anything like this last season. Although I can't see this going off without incidents because of the nature of the circuit maybe we should let it be for race one and see how we get on and then review it for race 2.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Apr 4, 2018 21:16:51 GMT
Rich and I have been working on some of these concerns, see what you all think...
Pit Stops & Pit Lane Entry/Exit
Pit stops are an important part of motorsport especially when when refuelling is permitted such as in Indycar.
Entry
On Pit Entry please stay pit side of the track and declare your intention to pit especially in traffic.
Have you pit speed limiter button set.
Pit Road
Pit Stop are manual so YOU need to drive the car in and out of pit road.
Once on pit road please stay in the fast lane which is the lane furthest from the garages until you reach your box. The is especially important if pit road is busy. This also applies to leaving the pits. Be carful of wheel spin on leaving the box. This can cause the car to spin and result in the game DQing you. Also it could hamper other drivers and be considered dangerous driving and/or unsporting.
Leaving the pits
Remember to have your pit limiter on until the green cones. Please state that you are leaving the pits and do not cut across the pit exit line into on coming traffic including back markers.
Drivers on the the track must pay attention to cars exiting the pits and must not cut across the pit exit line when car are leaving pit road even if this is considered the “normal” line when it is not in use.
Safety Car On normal road course races the safety car will only be in use for the FIRST FIVE (5) minutes of the race. Under certain conditions and with the race/series hosts discretion it may be called at other parts during the race. For oval races it may be called upon at ANY TIME during the race. The use of the SC is to control the race when multiple cars are damaged. There is massive debris. To allow damaged cars to return to pits for repairs or if unable to DNF and if required leave the race while reducing the lag experience for drivers still racing.
The SC will be who ever is in P1 at the time of calling. During SC the race will be single file with a Cars Length to be kept between cars at all times until the race resumes then cars are permitted to get closer if safe to do so. Restarts will be single file and will be called by the SC OUT OF THE LAST CORNER (unless circuit layout makes this impossible) once the last car has caught the train.
On road course races the SC period will be TWO (2) Laps. On ovals the SC period will be FOUR (4) Laps.
These periods may be made shorter or longer at race host discretion.
During a SC period the series/race host, the SC and and in the incident may communicate. Please no shouting. If any penalties are required it will be looked at when the races is over. If your involved in a incident please take a screen shot and or replay. You have 24hrs from the end of the race to raise a complaint. No evidence no action.
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