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Post by XRF Formula1 on Nov 5, 2018 0:38:50 GMT
Why do you guys always make me want to get involved in your races, when I can't due to time and commitments? Because it's awesome 🇺🇸 🏎 🏎🏎 🏎 🚓-HALT!🚓🚓🚓🚓🚓🚓🚓🚓
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Nov 5, 2018 8:23:46 GMT
any chance of having the best 11 of the 12 races as the standings for the championship? Also, any way we can have a full standings tally with the individual races logged instead of just a summary? It would make things a lot more transparent. Dropped Scores aren’t something I’m hugely fond of, it’s an archaic system that isn’t used in major professional motor racing today. When you say more transparency, what further information would you like to see?I'm pretty sure I know what Karl is referring to so i'll try to implement it for the new season. It's just a spreadsheet with the results of each race logged and the total points for the championship at the end. Just makes it easier to see how the season has progressed rather than going back over each individual race results post.
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Post by niblips on Nov 5, 2018 19:13:41 GMT
any chance of having the best 11 of the 12 races as the standings for the championship? Also, any way we can have a full standings tally with the individual races logged instead of just a summary? It would make things a lot more transparent. Dropped Scores aren’t something I’m hugely fond of, it’s an archaic system that isn’t used in major professional motor racing today. When you say more transparency, what further information would you like to see? I understand real racing series do not use it, this is a hobby for most though i think. One dropped result would allow for everyone to miss a race whether it was due to unforeseencircumstances, connection issues, or holidays away with their family. I'd just like to be able to follow everyones results at anytime instead of having to remember race week to race week who finished where. Last season some of the results weren't posted so it makes it hard to go back and verify points totals and such. If a table is used that displays all the race results with a total at the end it would be easy to see who finished where.
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Post by Nate Michael on Nov 8, 2018 14:30:48 GMT
At present I’m trying to keep it all in the US with the hope that may be another North American track come in the final DLC. Having said that if enough demand for a non NA track was to come then it could be considered. We have talked about running an Indycar World Series sometime in the future but like Rich says we want to keep the championship as close to the real series as possible for now. Hey Dave, if you’re looking to add any, and you may not be, the Daytona road course is pretty cool. We ran it in a hot lap challenge on Facebook, and it was pretty fun. I don’t care either way, just an idea for you if you were thinking about that
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Post by ReadingRich on Nov 8, 2018 16:08:52 GMT
We have talked about running an Indycar World Series sometime in the future but like Rich says we want to keep the championship as close to the real series as possible for now. Hey Dave, if you’re looking to add any, and you may not be, the Daytona road course is pretty cool. We ran it in a hot lap challenge on Facebook, and it was pretty fun. I don’t care either way, just an idea for you if you were thinking about that I’m a big fan of that circuit as well. The start of the laps a bit meh but the chicane on the back straight is the dogs....
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Post by wonkamandan on Nov 8, 2018 20:38:09 GMT
Would love tj get involved in this too guys but I go away for 3 weeks in the summer on holiday so a break would be ideal for me
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Post by ReadingRich on Jan 1, 2019 14:05:02 GMT
Why do you guys always make me want to get involved in your races, when I can't due to time and commitments? Sorry only just seen this. maybe see if you can do the 500 and practice practice practice.
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Post by stormtrooper on Jan 7, 2019 11:59:52 GMT
I will have a go at this, but I will miss quite a few as it will clash with some of my real-life racing.
That said, I think a drop round is a good idea to accommodate those that might miss out due to a emergency or holiday for example. F1 and the like obviously wouldn't have such a thing as that is their sole business, but for other racing disciplines, at club level for instance, it is quite normal to have a drop round to keep all of the racing close and help with budgets. Worth considering I reckon to keep everyone within reach of each other and have a close championship with many potential winners... Put it to a vote?
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Post by wonkamandan on Jan 7, 2019 12:43:19 GMT
Not a fan of s drop round I think we all have busy lives and if you can sacrifice and make all the races you should be rewarded 😜
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Post by stormtrooper on Jan 7, 2019 15:43:08 GMT
Talk about diluting the racing though. In Formula 1 they get ahead by overtaking in the pits (ooh the excitement) and here we're talking about overtaking someone who isn't even on the track lol Overtaking should be done on the track (or at least with two wheels off it) One drop round wouldn't make any difference to me anyway, as I'll miss maybe 4 races or so, but it should be up for debate among the drivers.
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Post by wonkamandan on Jan 7, 2019 15:44:34 GMT
Talk about diluting the racing though. In Formula 1 they get ahead by overtaking in the pits (ooh the excitement) and here we're talking about overtaking someone who isn't even on the track lol Overtaking should be done on the track (or at least with two wheels off it) One drop round wouldn't make any difference to me anyway, as I'll miss maybe 4 races or so, but it should be up for debate among the drivers. As the current schedule stands I’ll miss 4-5 I’m not in the country for 3 of them
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Post by niblips on Jan 9, 2019 13:46:24 GMT
I'm a fan of dropped rounds for online racing. It tends to keep things closer in the standings.
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Post by Uncle De4dly (Ian) on Jan 9, 2019 16:05:54 GMT
I used to do a lot of downhill racing (skiing) in an adult division. Our motto was - “you might beat us on the hill but we’ll beat you in the bar.”
In that series everyone got to drop their worst race. Worked pretty well.
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Post by Nate Michael on Jan 11, 2019 18:42:50 GMT
It’s dumb. Just make the races. If you don’t, that’s not everyone else’s fault. I’m cool with whatever rich and Dave say
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jan 12, 2019 0:28:45 GMT
It’s dumb. Just make the races. If you don’t, that’s not everyone else’s fault. I’m cool with whatever rich and Dave say Easier said than done for some and the drop rule just gives that little bit of leeway not just for missed races but also connection issues which most are likely to suffer at some point in a season.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jan 12, 2019 1:43:10 GMT
While im not a fan of dropped scores myself, I think it'll depend on how many people we have every week, how many times each person misses an event, who's fighting for the Championship ect.
We were going to do a dropped score in our Vintage F1 league. However, only 1 person would have lost points, and lost out on 2nd in the Championship. I don't think it's fair to punish someone who is really trying to race and makes every event. But I also don't think it's fair for the people really trying to race but can't make it 100% of the time.
I think it really will depend on circumstances of who makes what event, who's close in contention for the top spots in the Championship and yadda yadda yadda. It is something I think we should revisit near the end of the season honestly.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jan 12, 2019 9:40:55 GMT
Tbh I think you have to set this before the season starts and then not tamper with it at all so everyone knows where they stand from the off. If you start revisiting it partway through the season it just looks like trying to engineer something to effect a certain outcome.
I understand the thought that it's perhaps unfair on someone who makes all the races, but equally I think you need to try to be fair on those who don't have the sort of situation that allows them to make all the races. This is just a method to give some flexibility.
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Post by ReadingRich on Jan 12, 2019 11:50:05 GMT
From my point of view I hate it. It plays havoc with keeping track of points especially with bonus points and can really give a unfair reflection of the championship especially if your consistent and your lowest place is a 2nd or 3rd you could end up losing more than someone who’s lowest is a 2pt position. I also as Tyler put don’t like punishing people who do make it every race. On a side note it almost makes adding the realism of full length races and using both tyre compounds a bit pointless. I do understand why guys what it but look at it this way I had 2 races I didn’t score in and 1 I think was low and I still won the championship.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jan 12, 2019 13:31:25 GMT
The points side of it is not an issue, simple spreadsheet does that. It's really down to whether the majority want it more than any other factors. It won't have any more adverse reflection on the championship than is evident without it providing its clear from the start. Of course the ideal world would have everyone being able to attend each race and suffer no connection problems but that's never the case. I don't think the realism aspect has any bearing tbh, that's a racing preference that is not impacted by points regulations. Either way is no big issue for me. I do enjoy a good debate
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jan 12, 2019 18:03:15 GMT
Gents, after some discussion with Rich, Pete and I we have decided not to have any dropped scores in this championship. At the end of the series we’ll have another look at it and if we agree that the Championship would have been more competitive and close then we may choose to overturn this decision. That said, it’s looking like it’s going to be thrilling, competitive racing and we have some new faces in the series along with all us veterans trying to take Richie’s Championship.
Cheers
Dave
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