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Post by Mitch on Oct 11, 2019 14:15:36 GMT
Perennial front runners..[Jedi Mind Trick]What are your setups for this track?[/Jedi Mind Trick] Probably one of the top TT guys 😂 Go into the leaderboards, load up one of their set ups and you're golden.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Oct 11, 2019 14:49:16 GMT
Ah the surprise is if we're gonna have a host then 😂 Gareth has hosted in the past as well. Maybe he can pick it up if Dave is unavailable. Gareth has not been around since Spa and I haven't heard from him in a while so we probably can't assume he will be at this one.
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Post by Mitch on Oct 11, 2019 16:25:28 GMT
Gareth has hosted in the past as well. Maybe he can pick it up if Dave is unavailable. Gareth has not been around since Spa and I haven't heard from him in a while so we probably can't assume he will be at this one. He's signed up for this one hasn't he?
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Oct 11, 2019 17:37:10 GMT
Gareth has not been around since Spa and I haven't heard from him in a while so we probably can't assume he will be at this one. He's signed up for this one hasn't he? Good point, I forgot abt that.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 11, 2019 19:13:26 GMT
Perennial front runners..[Jedi Mind Trick]What are your setups for this track?[/Jedi Mind Trick] Probably one of the top TT guys 😂 Go into the leaderboards, load up one of their set ups and you're golden. Ha True. They don't always work well in a 100% race, though. It is always interesting to see leaderboard tunes. All the camber and toe is exactly the same no matter if it is Monza or Monaco. I understand tuning in Assetto and PCars, but not this game at all. Suzuka is particularly tricky. For me, at least. But what else is new lol
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Post by Mitch on Oct 11, 2019 19:18:21 GMT
Probably one of the top TT guys 😂 Go into the leaderboards, load up one of their set ups and you're golden. Ha True. They don't always work well in a 100% race, though. It is always interesting to see leaderboard tunes. All the camber and toe is exactly the same no matter if it is Monza or Monaco. I understand tuning in Assetto and PCars, but not this game at all. Suzuka is particularly tricky. For me, at least. But what else is new lol You'd be surprised mate, last couple of games the online and TT has been really close, so the set ups works no matter the distance lol Or at least that's how I've found it anyway, and it's seemed to have worked lol
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Post by Gareth on Oct 11, 2019 20:53:45 GMT
Yes I've signed up, I'd rather Dave host if he attends. The last time I hosted it was a big faff with searching on XBL for people with practically unsearchable gamertags after I'd put a message on here asking them to add me, which nobody did. In the end I went onto Peter's friends list and found them on there. End of rant. I could host as long is it's not last minute.
As far as setup goes, I'm running 6/6 wings 8/6 springs 8/6 ARB with ride height 4/4. I think the front camber is one click left and rear is three clicks right. Seems quite stable when I tested online earlier today, but not super fast on the straights.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 11, 2019 21:19:06 GMT
I'll give them a shot, thank you very much. Have ran everything from 3 8 downforce to 5 6 and every combo imaginable. Tires seem to get cooked no matter the psi, or at least they get very hot though S1.
I've broken 1:30s just once and no clue how people are hitting 1:27s. Hoping it will get a little better once I get my FOV fixed and move my chair up, but it sure as shit wont improve 2 or 3 seconds.lmao
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Oct 11, 2019 22:16:35 GMT
I'll give them a shot, thank you very much. Have ran everything from 3 8 downforce to 5 6 and every combo imaginable. Tires seem to get cooked no matter the psi, or at least they get very hot though S1. I've broken 1:30s just once and no clue how people are hitting 1:27s. Hoping it will get a little better once I get my FOV fixed and move my chair up, but it sure as shit wont improve 2 or 3 seconds.lmao Which part of the tyre is overheating? If the inside shoulder is too hot then there’s too much camber, also if you’re getting understeer then that’ll increase the surface temperature so stiffen the springs and ARB 🙂
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 11, 2019 23:02:32 GMT
I'll give them a shot, thank you very much. Have ran everything from 3 8 downforce to 5 6 and every combo imaginable. Tires seem to get cooked no matter the psi, or at least they get very hot though S1. I've broken 1:30s just once and no clue how people are hitting 1:27s. Hoping it will get a little better once I get my FOV fixed and move my chair up, but it sure as shit wont improve 2 or 3 seconds.lmao Which part of the tyre is overheating? If the inside shoulder is too hot then there’s too much camber, also if you’re getting understeer then that’ll increase the surface temperature so stiffen the springs and ARB 🙂 Is there a gauge in this game to see which part of the tire is overheating? If I am missing that, that's huge!! The front tires through the high speed esses are getting 220F at anywhere from 24.2 psi down to 22.2 psi. Don't know the bar conversion, but they get hot.lol
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 11, 2019 23:41:55 GMT
I just looked again and it says it is surface and carcass. Maybe I am confused. PCars, assetto etc show of the inside, middle, or outside edge is hot/cold.
What am I missing? I did see if I run max camber (all the way right) the carcass jumps up crazy high in the switchback.
They game says to keep them at optimal temps, but no way to know what those are other than "Green." And it is always green unless you drift.lol
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Oct 12, 2019 0:04:38 GMT
The game doesn't model the temperature of the seperate sectors of the tyre just the overall temperature unfortunately. It's about time they added this but at least they added the seperate surface and carcass temperatures from last year so maybe it will come next year.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 12, 2019 0:40:56 GMT
The game doesn't model the temperature of the seperate sectors of the tyre just the overall temperature unfortunately. It's about time they added this but at least they added the seperate surface and carcass temperatures from last year so maybe it will come next year. Ok thank you. I haven't paid much attention to it, but will look a little closer now. A lot throws me off since so many leaderboard tunes are identical.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Oct 12, 2019 6:50:41 GMT
I just looked again and it says it is surface and carcass. Maybe I am confused. PCars, assetto etc show of the inside, middle, or outside edge is hot/cold. What am I missing? I did see if I run max camber (all the way right) the carcass jumps up crazy high in the switchback. They game says to keep them at optimal temps, but no way to know what those are other than "Green." And it is always green unless you drift.lol Any setup change you make will compromise another part of the cars behaviour, also you’ll have to adapt the way you drive the car in that setup. Try moving the balance to the rear of the car by stiffening the front springs and ARB then soften the rear by the same amount. But like I said earlier you may have to compromise laptime for tyre life 🙂
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Post by Dale Rossi on Oct 12, 2019 15:05:46 GMT
I just looked again and it says it is surface and carcass. Maybe I am confused. PCars, assetto etc show of the inside, middle, or outside edge is hot/cold. What am I missing? I did see if I run max camber (all the way right) the carcass jumps up crazy high in the switchback. They game says to keep them at optimal temps, but no way to know what those are other than "Green." And it is always green unless you drift.lol Any setup change you make will compromise another part of the cars behaviour, also you’ll have to adapt the way you drive the car in that setup. Try moving the balance to the rear of the car by stiffening the front springs and ARB then soften the rear by the same amount. But like I said earlier you may have to compromise laptime for tyre life 🙂 Thank you, I really appreciate the help. The tire temp guage in this game throws me off is all. So essentially carcass is the middle of the tires and surface would be the inside edges nearest to the car. Meaning if you dont have enough pressure, the surface will be very hot and overly inflated tires will have a very hot carcass. (Similar to PCars' guage if you are familiar with that one)
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Post by CUkills on Oct 12, 2019 16:08:41 GMT
Alec / CUkills / merc
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Oct 12, 2019 16:58:47 GMT
Any setup change you make will compromise another part of the cars behaviour, also you’ll have to adapt the way you drive the car in that setup. Try moving the balance to the rear of the car by stiffening the front springs and ARB then soften the rear by the same amount. But like I said earlier you may have to compromise laptime for tyre life 🙂 Thank you, I really appreciate the help. The tire temp guage in this game throws me off is all. So essentially carcass is the middle of the tires and surface would be the inside edges nearest to the car. Meaning if you dont have enough pressure, the surface will be very hot and overly inflated tires will have a very hot carcass. (Similar to PCars' guage if you are familiar with that one) No the carcus is is the inner cord of the tyre and surface is the outer layer which makes contact with the track.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Oct 12, 2019 17:10:36 GMT
I had a practice today and unfortunately i'm just struggling badly. Can't seem to get to grips with this year's game and as a result am finding it difficult to get the level of enjoyment that I used to do. My best lap so far has been 1:30.8 which was only good enough for 7th on the grid against 95 level AI which is the lowest level i've raced against in years. Previously i've been competetive against 100-105 AI. Race pace has been really poor, started a race and after 13 laps am already about 25 seconds behind my teammate in the lead and even 6th place Gasly is pulling away by about a second a lap over the past few laps. Now struggling to hold onto 7th against Ricciardo in the Renault. I've left it there as it's proving more of a chore at the moment than the fun it should be 😒
I can't seem to keep the backend stable and traction out of the final chicane is no match for the AI. That hairpin costs me time every lap, I'm regularly up on my best lap up to there but it all disappears at that point of the lap!!
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Oct 12, 2019 17:18:22 GMT
Thank you, I really appreciate the help. The tire temp guage in this game throws me off is all. So essentially carcass is the middle of the tires and surface would be the inside edges nearest to the car. Meaning if you dont have enough pressure, the surface will be very hot and overly inflated tires will have a very hot carcass. (Similar to PCars' guage if you are familiar with that one) No the carcus is is the inner cord of the tyre and surface is the outer layer which makes contact with the track. Pete is absolutely correct, unfortunately this ‘game’ does not provide the level of engineering that better simulation software does, the surface temperature relates to the outside band that contacts the road surface and the carcass is the construction that the tread is bonded to, if your front tyre temps are high but you’re not getting understeer then simply reduce the braking pressure but like I said before any setup change is a compromise
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Oct 12, 2019 17:21:23 GMT
I had a practice today and unfortunately i'm just struggling badly. Can't seem to get to grips with this year's game and as a result am finding it difficult to get the level of enjoyment that I used to do. My best lap so far has been 1:30.8 which was only good enough for 7th on the grid against 95 level AI which is the lowest level i've raced against in years. Previously i've been competetive against 100-105 AI. Race pace has been really poor, started a race and after 13 laps am already about 25 seconds behind my teammate in the lead and even 6th place Gasly is pulling away by about a second a lap over the past few laps. Now struggling to hold onto 7th against Ricciardo in the Renault. I've left it there as it's proving more of a chore at the moment than the fun it should be 😒 I can't seem to keep the backend stable and traction out of the final chicane is no match for the AI. That hairpin costs me time every lap, I'm regularly up on my best lap up to there but it all disappears at that point of the lap!! You’re still a second a lap quicker than me 🤣🤣
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