|
|
Post by XRF Formula1 on Jun 20, 2020 22:52:39 GMT
Q: P15
R: P4
Well done to everyone who managed to finish this one (you too Ian, that was rotten luck) and Congratulations to Adam for the win, Liam and Wayne for their podium.
I've never seen so many incidents in one race ever, that was insane! A bunch of disqualifications, wrecks, Karl was dropped, and Pete ran out of gas right before his pit box. There probably should have been more cautions and everyone should have only been allowed one lap to unlap themselves for the one caution we did have.
I was a little disappointed with the number of finishers but still had a decent time. Good race guys
|
|
|
|
Post by wonkamandan on Jun 20, 2020 23:15:41 GMT
Qualified 2nd (3rd after 1 place pen)
Race - utter bullshit
To say I’m fuming and kissed off is an understatement I apologise if this post is fuelled by anger and huge disappointment at so many levels.
Race started as I expected quickly got into 2nd and had planned to sit there saving fuel into first pit so me and sirrib were pulling away from everyone easily I had even set my fuel mix one click down and was still easily staying and catching but holding back to not risk a crash.
We were a good 5-10 laps ahead of most cars when a safety car was called for another incident. Didn’t have an issue with the safety car but I feel the safety period was massively abused for pepper to gain from there previous before the safety car incidents. I vocalised that I wasn’t happy and I deep down knew when we restarted someone would end up being hit and not get the advantage of a safety car and Sod’s law it was me.
I can’t see how it’s fair that car can go in repair damage fuel up and come out and join the lead lap?
Then when e restarted I got smashed into ten back and lost both my wings and knew i wouldnt get a safety car as everyone else already gained before so why care about little old me. Dispite already being bent over and losing my huge lead.
Think I’m done never had such high blood pressure in anger I put so much time and effort into that for nothing.
Your all probably thinking I’m a sore looser maybe I am who cares aye what a hock of shit anyway
|
|
|
|
Post by SirRibShack on Jun 20, 2020 23:22:15 GMT
Q P1
R P1
Very excited to take my first pole and achieve my first podium and win in the same race. Also very excited for an Andretti 1-2-3 with Liam and Wayne, great job guys!
Barely got Dan for pole by .023 and was expecting to run close with him during the race which we did until the safety car early in the race. Not sure what happened to him after the restart though but this allowed me to build a decent gap before the first round of stops. After I made my stop Tyler was right behind me and must have had a monster in and out lap because I believe he was in P3 going into the first stops. I barely avoided a few incidents ahead of me as others were making contact. I was running a clean race until about lap 110, I was starting to drive to a fuel number and Pete was coming up on me quickly so I went high in 1-2 to let him by but had a half spin and tapped the wall but luckily avoided damage. I'm not sure how many laps after that I did the same for Tyler in 3-4 and touched the wall and again luckily avoided damage. After that it was just hitting my fuel number to make it home and hoping my right foot didn't fall asleep. At least for me I really appreciated everyone's great communication and didn't really even have a close call with anyone. Also pretty frustrated as well for everyone that had unfortunate issues out of their control and ended their race. I'll see everyone in 2 weeks at Long Beach!
|
|
|
|
Post by SirRibShack on Jun 20, 2020 23:27:03 GMT
Qualified 2nd (3rd after 1 place pen) Race - utter bullshit To say I’m fuming and kissed off is an understatement I apologise if this post is fuelled by anger and huge disappointment at so many levels. Race started as I expected quickly got into 2nd and had planned to sit there saving fuel into first pit so me and sirrib were pulling away from everyone easily I had even set my fuel mix one click down and was still easily staying and catching but holding back to not risk a crash. We were a good 5-10 laps ahead of most cars when a safety car was called for another incident. Didn’t have an issue with the safety car but I feel the safety period was massively abused for pepper to gain from there previous before the safety car incidents. I vocalised that I wasn’t happy and I deep down knew when we restarted someone would end up being hit and not get the advantage of a safety car and Sod’s law it was me. I can’t see how it’s fair that car can go in repair damage fuel up and come out and join the lead lap? Then when e restarted I got smashed into ten back and lost both my wings and knew i wouldnt get a safety car as everyone else already gained before so why care about little old me. Dispite already being bent over and losing my huge lead. Think I’m done never had such high blood pressure in anger I put so much time and effort into that for nothing. Your all probably thinking I’m a sore looser maybe I am who cares aye what a hock of shit anyway I agree on the length of the safety car period. I just went with what was happening and wasn't sure how this was done in the past. By the time I realized I didn't have heat in my tires it was too late and was pretty worried about spinning the first couple laps after. I agree next time we need to have the lapped cars get one lap back, go to the back, and start up again. |
|
|
|
Post by wonkamandan on Jun 20, 2020 23:48:26 GMT
Not sure there is a procedure but surely you can’t disadvantage the leaders who have driven well and deserve the lead they have?
I was more pissed with being smashed full blown at the start I pulled away with you and drive cautious to not get to close knowing the tyres were cold to be rammed and effectively race over as now everyone was one the lead lap and I would of been a good 7-10 laps down ironically the same number I was ahead all Through no fault of my own.
Think I’m done now with the Indy cars annoyed I’ve bought a bloody f1 wheel and three myself too much into it for jack all. (Anyone wanna buy a barely used wheel)
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 0:17:21 GMT
I get the frustration Dan but it's early in the season and a lot of racing left. Agreed that we need to look at the safety car period and revise the procedure. We have always called a SC when multiple cars are involved. I was on my own at my incident so one wasn't called but once others got involved elsewhere on track it was called at that point. It is pot luck in those circumstances I agree. But as to your point of refuelling everyone has that same option not just the damaged cars.
It was a good start and tbh I was managing my race and dropped slightly back from you two up front to keep my tyres cool and was happily running there in 3rd about 4 seconds behind but knowing I had a lot of pace to spare. I ended up multiple laps down after the restart after contact put me in the wall, nothing malicious just what happens in these races with big grids. But despite that I was able to fight back into 2nd place quite nicely by just after halfway. These races are so long and full of incidents that you can always make laps back.
My lack of practice cost me as I misjudged the fuel and pulled up short of my pit box. These cars just don't roll in the game whereas in real life they will for ages. If I had been aware I would have coasted more into the pits and made it fine. Just another of those little things that can happen.
Well done to all that finished and to Adam for his first win and Liam for a strong second place and nice first podium for Wayne.
Gutted for Karl who was having a string race only to be discoed when running in 4th place and looking good for strong points. Ganassi at least had a third car to pick up some points with Tyler showing you can have a bad incident but come back strong. Karl, we need to get an extra car in the Schmidt Peterson garage lol.
Long Beach next and that one is bound to be a race of attrition. Those walls are unforgiving!!
|
|
|
|
Post by wonkamandan on Jun 21, 2020 1:24:30 GMT
I get the frustration Dan but it's early in the season and a lot of racing left. Agreed that we need to look at the safety car period and revise the procedure. We have always called a SC when multiple cars are involved. I was on my own at my incident so one wasn't called but once others got involved elsewhere on track it was called at that point. It is pot luck in those circumstances I agree. But as to your point of refuelling everyone has that same option not just the damaged cars. It was a good start and tbh I was managing my race and dropped slightly back from you two up front to keep my tyres cool and was happily running there in 3rd about 4 seconds behind but knowing I had a lot of pace to spare. I ended up multiple laps down after the restart after contact put me in the wall, nothing malicious just what happens in these races with big grids. But despite that I was able to fight back into 2nd place quite nicely by just after halfway. These races are so long and full of incidents that you can always make laps back. My lack of practice cost me as I misjudged the fuel and pulled up short of my pit box. These cars just don't roll in the game whereas in real life they will for ages. If I had been aware I would have coasted more into the pits and made it fine. Just another of those little things that can happen. Well done to all that finished and to Adam for his first win and Liam for a strong second place and nice first podium for Wayne. Gutted for Karl who was having a string race only to be discoed when running in 4th place and looking good for strong points. Ganassi at least had a third car to pick up some points with Tyler showing you can have a bad incident but come back strong. Karl, we need to get an extra car in the Schmidt Peterson garage lol. Long Beach next and that one is bound to be a race of attrition. Those walls are unforgiving!! Appreciate what your saying but it’s easy to take the view it’s Along race when your own error costs you not so easy when your a passenger being taken out and especially when you don’t agree with the circumstances that bought you there. That’s a totally different mindset |
|
|
|
Post by pattycro89 on Jun 21, 2020 2:08:34 GMT
I apologise if it was the contact with me that sent you airbourne Wonkamandan. Honestly felt or heard nothing on my end,so it must have been the slightest of touches. But I do apologise.
Because I'm new I didn't quite feel comfortable saying anything during the safety car,i just went with it but I admit it was a little odd. My 2 cents would be to allow lapped traffic to make up a lap but not several.
My debut race in the league:
Q:12th
R:6th
Start was great on cold tires. Moved up to 5th or 6th at the start then progressed to 4th and was running comfortably before moving to 3rd.
All went downhill after the safety car. A few spins that were my fault....a couple 360 saves that aswell. Quite a few laps down at that point but you just never know what could happen. Had an incident with a reset car that appeared in front of me and that ended my charge and just decided to bring her home for some points
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 6:18:16 GMT
I get the frustration Dan but it's early in the season and a lot of racing left. Agreed that we need to look at the safety car period and revise the procedure. We have always called a SC when multiple cars are involved. I was on my own at my incident so one wasn't called but once others got involved elsewhere on track it was called at that point. It is pot luck in those circumstances I agree. But as to your point of refuelling everyone has that same option not just the damaged cars. It was a good start and tbh I was managing my race and dropped slightly back from you two up front to keep my tyres cool and was happily running there in 3rd about 4 seconds behind but knowing I had a lot of pace to spare. I ended up multiple laps down after the restart after contact put me in the wall, nothing malicious just what happens in these races with big grids. But despite that I was able to fight back into 2nd place quite nicely by just after halfway. These races are so long and full of incidents that you can always make laps back. My lack of practice cost me as I misjudged the fuel and pulled up short of my pit box. These cars just don't roll in the game whereas in real life they will for ages. If I had been aware I would have coasted more into the pits and made it fine. Just another of those little things that can happen. Well done to all that finished and to Adam for his first win and Liam for a strong second place and nice first podium for Wayne. Gutted for Karl who was having a string race only to be discoed when running in 4th place and looking good for strong points. Ganassi at least had a third car to pick up some points with Tyler showing you can have a bad incident but come back strong. Karl, we need to get an extra car in the Schmidt Peterson garage lol. Long Beach next and that one is bound to be a race of attrition. Those walls are unforgiving!! Appreciate what your saying but it’s easy to take the view it’s Along race when your own error costs you not so easy when your a passenger being taken out and especially when you don’t agree with the circumstances that bought you there. That’s a totally different mindset I get where you're coming from and fully understand the frustration, been there myself many times, but it wasn't my own mistake that put me 4 laps down after the restart but similar to yours was a racing incident that can always happen in those packed grid times. That was just before the incident that you had so just shows you how you can come back in these races if you get your head down. Your incident at the restart was unfortunate no doubt but there was always going to be that restart when multiple cars were involved in an incident. That's true to real life oval racing and we've always done that, the only thing that we would look at in future is allowing drivers to get multiple laps back. At that point there were only a few drivers that were in that position and most of those were also put in that position through no fault of their own which is why the decision was made. But in future we'll probably review that more in line with real life which myself and Dave will investigate to see what would have actually happened under similar circumstances. Resets will also need to be looked at as I wasn't aware that had been allowed as it's not something we've had in the past and not in line with the realism we try to stick to. It's all a learning curve with these larger grids on ovals but overall it worked pretty well and the racing was clean and respectful from everyone |
|
|
|
Post by Laird Cake on Jun 21, 2020 7:16:38 GMT
Q - P12
R - DSQ (Speeding in pit lane)
Pretty tricky qualifying as I was struggling with the new setup and couldn't pick up a decent tow to get into the fight. On entering the pits I caught the outside wall which spun me out then got a wrong way DSQ from qualifying.
Race started off pretty good - managed again to stay out if incidents and fought upto 9th before the safety car. At the restart there were more incidents which promoted me to 6th.
Not sure what happened but Dave and I came together at 1st corner which cost us both. I didn't know you were there till the last second and it was too late. I need to work on awareness still but the ovals are tricky to work with.
I needed a lengthy stop to repair damage and from then I struggled to get back on the pace. After a few other spins and encounters with the wall I was dead last by a few minutes. Kept it going until last 140 ish where I needed to pit - I was slowing, on the pit limiter but not quick enough and that was me joining Mick for a PL DSQ. Wasn't pleased but it was my own fault.
Congrats to the winner, finishers and thanks to Sam for the setup share. See you at long beach.
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jun 21, 2020 7:17:05 GMT
Gents,
Firstly, congratulations to Adam for the win, well done to Liam and Wayne for your podium.
Secondly, I’d like to apologise for leaving in a huff, I was emotional after 2 big shunts and I decided that I was clearly out of contention being 15 odd laps off the lead lap.
Q6 ( 1 place penalty for pit lane speeding infringement )
R DNF
I was pleased with my Pb in qualifying and hopeful of a good result but due to some operational errors on my part I retired on lap 49. I got a fairly decent start and was in P5 behind Pete for the opening laps before brushing the wall and damaging the front wing, as my pit window was a number of laps away I opted to continue at a reduced pace, I pitted on lap 17 which cost me 4 or 5 laps, as I rejoined the race the SC was called and without discussion with Pete I decided to get all the lapped cars back on the lead lap, it was a a bad decision made for the right reasons so I take full responsibility for that, at the restart I made up a few places but whilst unlapping my self with Richard I didn’t indicate to him that I was underneath him and we made contact resulting in a huge shunt, I limped to the pits for further repairs which took over 5 minutes to complete, after a few more laps the car understeered into the wall in Turn 1 which was the final nail in my coffin so I retired the car in a fit of frustration.
For future Oval events can I suggest that in any safety car period that lapped cars in the pack should rejoin the field at the back so they don’t interfere with those on the lead lap? Secondly, if your car ends up on its roll hoop then your race is over, we’ve always strived for the most realistic simulator races and I’m not sure that resetting after a crash adds to that realism.
Lastly, I’d like to thank everyone who’s supported our series and made it into this incredible championship that we enjoy racing in, we’ve come a long way in terms of numbers and quality of drivers and I’m sure we can learn from each other and improve.
Again, please accept my apologies and I look forward to Long Beach.
Cheers
Dave
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 7:52:31 GMT
Don't worry Dave it's just one of those wrinkles that we can iron out and no need to apologise. The multiple cars getting back on the lead lap wasn't the cause of the problem that was just your typical restart situation which as i've outlined was always going to happen under those circumstances, we've always done that and is a consequence of the game not having its own built in yellow flag rule.
Shit happens in oval racing more then anywhere else but it's a long season and plenty of racing to be had. This has been a great start to the season so let's concentrate on that first and foremost 👍
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 7:58:41 GMT
I apologise if it was the contact with me that sent you airbourne Wonkamandan. Honestly felt or heard nothing on my end,so it must have been the slightest of touches. But I do apologise. Because I'm new I didn't quite feel comfortable saying anything during the safety car,i just went with it but I admit it was a little odd. My 2 cents would be to allow lapped traffic to make up a lap but not several. My debut race in the league: Q:12th R:6th Start was great on cold tires. Moved up to 5th or 6th at the start then progressed to 4th and was running comfortably before moving to 3rd. All went downhill after the safety car. A few spins that were my fault....a couple 360 saves that aswell. Quite a few laps down at that point but you just never know what could happen. Had an incident with a reset car that appeared in front of me and that ended my charge and just decided to bring her home for some points You had a very solid first race and raced clean and fair throughout so don't feel bad about it. Ovals are tough on restarts in particular and now and then these things will happen as they do in real life oval racing. Good job 👍 |
|
|
|
Post by bigwill369 on Jun 21, 2020 9:07:32 GMT
Q- 7
Race - dnf
That was fun while it lasted! I do like the unique challenge of oval racing & the constant action.
I got disqualified for entering the pit lane sideways at 150mph 😂 Completely lost the back end!
It was myself who caused the 1st safety car, i spun out & got t-boned by micko. As far as im aware nobody took advantage pitting under the SC apart from the 2 drivers involved, that was micko & myself, my car was total wreck!
No need to apologise for anything Dave we all appreciate the job you do & it’s not easy at times.
Looking forward to the next one!
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 9:36:07 GMT
Does anybody that fished the race last night run rsDash? If so could you export the race session and email me the file to hammerpgh@gmail.com please.
Because I dnf'd my data is incomplete and I use the result part of rsDash to produce our results spreadsheet. It saves me having to manually enter all the data.
I can sees that Micko and Adam use it so if it was running last night please send me what you have. Cheers.
|
|
|
|
Post by SirRibShack on Jun 21, 2020 12:17:58 GMT
Does anybody that fished the race last night run rsDash? If so could you export the race session and email me the file to hammerpgh@gmail.com please. Because I dnf'd my data is incomplete and I use the result part of rsDash to produce our results spreadsheet. It saves me having to manually enter all the data. I can sees that Micko and Adam use it so if it was running last night please send me what you have. Cheers. Just sent it to you. |
|
|
|
Post by niblips on Jun 21, 2020 12:56:29 GMT
Great race Adam. Solid run from start to finish. As for me, that's my first disconnect in ages. Not sure why it happened or if there is anything i can do to mitigate it in the future. I was running well and had managed to keep out of the way of any incidents. I was behind Tyler for quite a bit. I was getting a good toe and likely could have passed him with it, but i'm sure i would have lost the speed in front so i opted to just hang on to the back of him. He had excellent pit stops and dropped me by 6 seconds after the first one. I managed to catch back up to him with the help of Peter but then on lap 68 i was kicked from the lobby. Pretty disappointing as i was looking good for P3 i think. Also gutted for Peter. Running out of fuel in the pit lane is something i did once here as well....maybe the first season...?
|
|
|
|
Post by XRF HammerPH on Jun 21, 2020 15:28:22 GMT
Does anybody that fished the race last night run rsDash? If so could you export the race session and email me the file to hammerpgh@gmail.com please. Because I dnf'd my data is incomplete and I use the result part of rsDash to produce our results spreadsheet. It saves me having to manually enter all the data. I can sees that Micko and Adam use it so if it was running last night please send me what you have. Cheers. Just sent it to you. Cheers Adam, much appreciated. I've of the things I wish the app would do is still report the race results if you don't finish but stay in the session. |
|
|
|
Post by iang0355 on Jun 21, 2020 15:59:38 GMT
Q-4th
R- an undeserving 7th
I had really high hopes and expectations for this race and myself after our test a while back, and after having a rough go in the first few rounds I was hoping to get a good points finish today to help come back in the standings a bit. I spent a ton of time tinkering with my setups and felt probably overly confident going in, but that's besides the point.
Qually started well, went straight to the top of the board right away and was happy with how the car felt. Within 10 minutes I had fallen to fifth so I went back out a couple times to try and improve but had no luck. Ran out of fuel a lap sooner than i had hoped one time and right as I caught someone for a tow at the start of the lap. Tried to coast down onto the apron so i could stop, got loose and slid right into micko's path. Any other attempts were futile in that I couldn't find a good draft anywhere but I managed to get back to 4th on timing so I took that and went on.
At the start I kept getting loose behind people and eventually fell to around 7th when I had a spin off 4 and brushed the wall just enough to do some damage to rear aero and suspension, pitted in and went out just before the safety car. When the relapping started I wasn't really sure on how many laps we were supposed to get so I just followed along but should've just stayed where I was after getting one back. Then the big wrecks happened in the lead and to say it was gutting is an understatement. I agree with Dan in that it wasn't exactly fair for us to go and do that, but we all did stay at the back afterwards so we were out of the way and incidents on restarts at ovals are a dime a dozen. That being said, those guys having a wreck and losing all those positions afterwards because some of us got to take multiple laps back to get on the lead lap isn't fair for them either. My suggestion for the next oval races would be to go in a manner similar to NASCAR but with a twist; I'll throw a different post up with that in a few.
As for the rest of the race, it was basically try and avoid causing more problems and plug laps after a few more wrecks on my own or just having nowhere to go. I collectrd laird while trying to pass once and that was completely my fault. Patty was going by and I was right behind him so I tried to follow but clapped the wall and took laird with me, did a lot more damage to him than myself too. I should've called that out mate, I'm so sorry for that.
Later on towards the end patty had an incident and I was gaining on him by almost a second per lap; I caught up to tyler and Wayne at a bad time, went to go under Tyler in 1 and 2 and lost it. Having to enter low after a massive tow made it impossible to keep it there and I spun. Luckily collected nobody and even managed to keep it out of the wall but a few laps later I got a ton of push behind someone and drug the wall in 1 and 2 again. When I was heading into the pits I completely zoned out and forgot to hit the limiter and got a DQ for speeding with 7 to go. I wasn't racing for position anymore and wasn't sure if I'd get back out before repairs completed but still, to get that far and then do that made me feel like an absolute moron.
At the end of it all though, an amazing showing from Adam and a good effort on everyone to try and stick with it. A great first run from patty, glad to see you do so well and hopefully some lessons learned after this one for what we should do on ovals in the future. Let's all work together on this and figure out some good procedures to go with for Indy, Daytona and the Texas night race.
Sorry for the book here but there's a lot to unpack for all of us on this one I'd say. Looking forward to long beach, as much as I despise the track at times it always makes for a good race
|
|
|
|
Post by Liam Atkin on Jun 21, 2020 16:58:51 GMT
Q: P3 but P2 with Dans penalty
R: P2
Quali was a huge surprise to be that close to the top, I got 1 good toe and it gained me just over a tenth which was the difference between p3 and probably the middle of the pack.
A hesitant start from myself knowing how easy and likely it was to crash on the opening lap. I made the mistake of backing off mid corner putting me into a slide and collecting the wall slightly but enough to make the car underivable so I pitted. I struggled the same as a few having to drive very differently to any testing I’ve done and drove most the race in 4th gear after figuring this seemed to be faster. Yet again I ran out of talent being cautious behind someone and destroyed the car while collecting Dave mid crash (sorry Dave). I pitted and there was a safety car just as I left the pits, after getting to the back of the pack I was 8 laps behind the lead car. After unlapping myself 5 times the choice was made just to join the pack 3 laps down at the back so the race could crack on. Anything could happen so I just thought keep putting the laps in and do what I could. The rest of my race was pretty event free apart from 2 slides across the grass losing grip behind others, this said no damage was done and I could carry on. Having pitted at strange times because of crashes I was always at a different stage in my stint compared to the guys around me and I was battling around 4/5th.
I luckily picked up 2 more place due to the misfortune of Pete running out of fuel and Chris being disconnected. Me and Wayne had several good battles over P2 but I believe he had a little off and had to pit giving me 5 laps gap Behind and I was able to take 2nd still the 3 laps behind Adam that I had joined the back of the pack at.
Fantastic Drive Adam and congratulations Wayne for the podium.
Dan I appreciate the frustration but don’t give up, so far to go in the championship and your always at the sharp end of the field.
|
|
