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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jul 18, 2018 15:18:28 GMT
I have tried on a number of occasions to start and continue a career in PCars 2 but as the AI are soooo flakey and unpredictable I get frustrated quickly. If the AI was more consistent and raced fairly then I’d pursue it further but as all the cars are already unlocked for multiplayer or time trail then there’s not a lot of mileage in pushing on in career mode, the only other incentive is collecting gamer points but I can live without that.
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 18, 2018 16:15:33 GMT
I would like to try the career, but it seems to "still" have the random issue that can occur at any time where you loose you're whole career progress. I don't want to take that chance, because I know how pissed off I would become, and it seems like a waste of time that would cause massive frustration.
Secondly, the game on XBox One will have issues with larger numbers of AI, and currently there's no way to reduce that AI number (as you can in Custom Race or MP), so trying to drive with 32 cars on track in Career would be the biggest nightmare that I could imagine. Why you can set them in CR and MP, and not in Career seems like a major over-sight on SMS development team. (not surprising though)
When I set up my cars, I use 12+1 cars on track in Custom Race so that when I get to a MP race with 12 ~ 13 cars on track I don't get blind-sighted with physics that are different from non-MP set up, and most importantly the FFB jolting and grinding while in a MP race.
For example yesterday I had set up in Custom race with 12 cars and FFB was good at RAW 100/32/90/5, but when actually in a MP race with 12 cars it had to be set to RAW 86/30/93/0 just to get back to the similar feeling that I had in Custom Race.
The other issue I had in MP was that even after lowering the FFB, every time I was near another car or worst a set of cars, the FFB would sort of freak out and make the grinding noises again.
And sometimes I would just be going down a straight, and the FFB would start grinding randomly, and I assume it was due to the NET Code not being able to keep sync with everyone in the lobby.
For me, these are the two biggest issues in pC2, the career AI number being limited, and the Net Code not being optimized for XBox One.
I don't think either of these two issues will ever get fixed, but there's still fun to be had in this game if you're willing to deal with those two issues.
Just my two cents. IMHO, it's a shame to that we have to have all these work-around's for each game. Each and every game has some stupid fuck-up that makes it where you can't just get on with it and totally enjoy it.
I have hopes for ACC, but typically as games go, there will be some screw up there too. But since it will be one of the newest releases, maybe they have learned from others past mistakes and can make this version as bug free and fun filled as possible. Oh yeah, you'll have to move to PC format to play it when it's released.
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Post by inthebagbud on Jul 18, 2018 19:08:23 GMT
I am currently pursuing the career but how long I stick with it is any ones guess. I started Pcasr1 career but never really got far and persuaded myself to have a real go at it in Pcars 2 . As lemarrrrr says the inconsistency of the AI is really frustrating and just when you think you can race consistently at upper levels of AI you get a race where you have no chance and have to reduce the AI level.
Under Pcars 1 I spent most of time TT but felt it wasn't teaching me race craft hence the leaning towards career presently , but TT is still pulling me but just resisting at present.
As Shneeb says really looking forward to ACC, but has it been confirmed for consoles yet ?
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 18, 2018 19:12:05 GMT
I think it's a "no go" for consoles. They already made that mistake once, haha I just hope they don't rush the release before it's polished up enough. I hope since it's a whole new engine, and they took a lot of advice, that it might contain the best of the best. I'll get a PC if it proves to be good enough.
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Post by psykotikdrummer on Jul 19, 2018 4:12:34 GMT
I'm trying to see if the law of averages is with me. I've lost my career once already. Trying one more time. It's proven to be a pretty good learning tool since I am trying to learn how to tune the car and drive with only authentic settings.
So far I have not had any issues performance wise. But now after reading the prior posts ^ I am not sure if I will keep going or not.
Cheers, Dok
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 19, 2018 11:09:26 GMT
I only had a very brief dip into the career side of the game when I fist got it and have not been back since. Not for any other reason than I just struggle to find the time to devote to it with the various leagues I race in and the practice they require. The problem with the number of AI that career demands has been a longstanding problem for owners of the original Xbox and for the life of me I cannot understand why the devs did not include an option to reduce the number as this would resolve so many of the problems that people have complained about. I have just started a career in F1 2017 (yeah I know nuts or what.. had the game since last August, the new game comes out next month and I am just embarking on my first career season ). It has opened my eyes to how much fun it can be though and although I don't believe pCars has the same depth I am definitely going to look into resurrecting that early started career now. It would be interesting to have some reports added here about how each of our career's progress if anyone does indeed get into it.
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Post by ReadingRich on Jul 19, 2018 14:58:41 GMT
I race career not as much as I’d like to due to work, life and practicing IndyCar (so I can lap LeMarrrr😁) I’ve basically took the single seat route up to the point I did Formula X and sucked. Now I’m in the US endurance series bossing P2 in a mixed field of P2,P3 and I believe GT3. I do most races at a hour length (except one I did a two hour race) and I have the AI set with a 100% skill and and about 50% cautious nature. It’s a lot of fun and helps keep me racing when I have nothing on. It’s only draw back is it’s AI and not people because with AI you can learn what there gonna do for the most part there is always the unknown with human competition.
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Post by ReadingRich on Jul 21, 2018 10:15:34 GMT
I’ve since won the sports car series and made it to the top tier of racing so naturally I’ve picked Indycar 😁 Down side is I’ll get even more seat time than Dave (LeMarrrrr) so I should be even quicker our next race.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Jul 21, 2018 12:35:34 GMT
I’ve since won the sports car series and made it to the top tier of racing so naturally I’ve picked Indycar 😁 Down side is I’ll get even more seat time than Dave (LeMarrrrr) so I should be even quicker our next race. Since I’ve changed shifts at work it’s been difficult to get as much practice and engineering done as I’d like, as a result of that I’ve not been anywhere near as competitive as I should’ve been. Rich is the benchmark in this series that we’ve put to together, so it’ll be a sweet victory when it all comes together. That said we have a number of very competitive drivers in this championship and many drivers that can win on any given day.
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Post by ReadingRich on Jul 21, 2018 14:24:57 GMT
I’ve since won the sports car series and made it to the top tier of racing so naturally I’ve picked Indycar 😁 Down side is I’ll get even more seat time than Dave (LeMarrrrr) so I should be even quicker our next race. Since I’ve changed shifts at work it’s been difficult to get as much practice and engineering done as I’d like, as a result of that I’ve not been anywhere near as competitive as I should’ve been. Rich is the benchmark in this series that we’ve put to together, so it’ll be a sweet victory when it all comes together. That said we have a number of very competitive drivers in this championship and many drivers that can win on any given day. I’m just kidding mate. to be fair it is pretty all I ever drive I’ll pretty much do hours and hours and hours in the IndyCar add to that how much I love the real World Series and I just find extra motivation every time we race.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 21, 2018 20:43:46 GMT
Practice wise I'm the same, I rarely get the practice time in these days and when I do i'm splitting it between three series so that doesn't help. That's one of the reasons that I tend to just go with the default setup much of the time, garage time is a luxury I just can't afford lol.
I'm looking forward to when I'm retired and can spend more time on track 👍
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Post by Uncle De4dly (Ian) on Oct 31, 2018 22:53:01 GMT
I've found career so far to be pretty useful but we'll see how that shakes out as I delve into multiplayer and actual races. I'll have to explore making the AI a bit more cautious 'cause they really are aggressive and it forces me to be aggressive at times to hold a position or when they do something completely off the wall.
I have to say as a Noob it's definitely helping my progression though - mostly 'cause I'm trying to practice the techniques shown on the insiders series though. Without that goal in mind I'm not sure if it'd be as effective as a training tool.
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Post by y22rydr on Nov 1, 2018 0:46:03 GMT
I've found career so far to be pretty useful but we'll see how that shakes out as I delve into multiplayer and actual races. I'll have to explore making the AI a bit more cautious 'cause they really are aggressive and it forces me to be aggressive at times to hold a position or when they do something completely off the wall. I have to say as a Noob it's definitely helping my progression though - mostly 'cause I'm trying to practice the techniques shown on the insiders series though. Without that goal in mind I'm not sure if it'd be as effective as a training tool. Check out the Driver 61 series (the driver’s university) as well as the IRacing driving School videos. Yorkie’s videos are great for game specific information, and these links should help you out with developing your race craft.
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