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Post by niblips on Sept 24, 2018 19:30:01 GMT
Well, that was an interesting finale to the season… felt really bad for those that got caught up in the start of race chaos and luckily my poor qualifying meant that I was able to avoid it all and come out unscathed. In hindsight a restart would have been the best bet to get everyone back racing but as with all those sort of things it’s never easy to make that call whilst still racing and of course then what happens if similar happens in the restarted race, how many times can you restart? Something we can discuss before we start over for a new season. I have some thoughts and idea’s on this and other things around that season as well. Yeah, there are things that can be done to make sure the race doesn't have to be restarted over and over. For example if a red flag is called at the start triggering a restart then the restart should be single file. That way the chances of having another incident causing a red flag are lessened. Some might argue that this takes away from the experience, but in all honesty if we can't make a side by side start work the first time then maybe we deserve to have that option taken away from us...lol. It's more troublesome on some circuits than it is at others. It's particularly troublesome at Sonomo due to the left kink on the start. I also think it would be nice to have the races as lapped races next time instead of timed races. It could be based on distance or time, and then just do the math. If we want an hour-ish race here in the future that means this race would be about 46 laps. Also, could we possibly remove the practice session? Most of (if not all of us) practice before hand throughout the week. Cutting out that 15 15 minute session means that time could be added to the race or to the quali session.
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Post by Nate Michael on Sept 25, 2018 0:52:19 GMT
Well, that was an interesting finale to the season… felt really bad for those that got caught up in the start of race chaos and luckily my poor qualifying meant that I was able to avoid it all and come out unscathed. In hindsight a restart would have been the best bet to get everyone back racing but as with all those sort of things it’s never easy to make that call whilst still racing and of course then what happens if similar happens in the restarted race, how many times can you restart? Something we can discuss before we start over for a new season. I have some thoughts and idea’s on this and other things around that season as well. Yeah, there are things that can be done to make sure the race doesn't have to be restarted over and over. For example if a red flag is called at the start triggering a restart then the restart should be single file. That way the chances of having another incident causing a red flag are lessened. Some might argue that this takes away from the experience, but in all honesty if we can't make a side by side start work the first time then maybe we deserve to have that option taken away from us...lol. It's more troublesome on some circuits than it is at others. It's particularly troublesome at Sonomo due to the left kink on the start. I also think it would be nice to have the races as lapped races next time instead of timed races. It could be based on distance or time, and then just do the math. If we want an hour-ish race here in the future that means this race would be about 46 laps. Also, could we possibly remove the practice session? Most of (if not all of us) practice before hand throughout the week. Cutting out that 15 15 minute session means that time could be added to the race or to the quali session. You know what Tyler Tyler I was telling my girlfriend that exact same thing the practice session. I had absolutely no grip, and I was running consistent load 216s all week. My car had no grip in any of the corners, I was much slower. Karl has some great ideas. I definitely like the laps instead of the time, but then again this is my first rodeo so I’m cool with whatever the stewards decide. Like I said before, I’m just happy to be here, and happy I found such a great group of guys. On a separate note, is anyone aware of a mute button that you can utilize in race? Just in case you have some cock sucker that talks nonstop, that you really don’t want to hear anymore? 🤣🤣
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Post by Nate Michael on Sept 25, 2018 1:10:48 GMT
Sorry, was using voice to text. Low 116s to 115s
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Post by niblips on Sept 25, 2018 13:23:52 GMT
Yeah, there are things that can be done to make sure the race doesn't have to be restarted over and over. For example if a red flag is called at the start triggering a restart then the restart should be single file. That way the chances of having another incident causing a red flag are lessened. Some might argue that this takes away from the experience, but in all honesty if we can't make a side by side start work the first time then maybe we deserve to have that option taken away from us...lol. It's more troublesome on some circuits than it is at others. It's particularly troublesome at Sonomo due to the left kink on the start. I also think it would be nice to have the races as lapped races next time instead of timed races. It could be based on distance or time, and then just do the math. If we want an hour-ish race here in the future that means this race would be about 46 laps. Also, could we possibly remove the practice session? Most of (if not all of us) practice before hand throughout the week. Cutting out that 15 15 minute session means that time could be added to the race or to the quali session. You know what Tyler Tyler I was telling my girlfriend that exact same thing the practice session. I had absolutely no grip, and I was running consistent load 216s all week. My car had no grip in any of the corners, I was much slower. Karl has some great ideas. I definitely like the laps instead of the time, but then again this is my first rodeo so I’m cool with whatever the stewards decide. Like I said before, I’m just happy to be here, and happy I found such a great group of guys. On a separate note, is anyone aware of a mute button that you can utilize in race? Just in case you have some cock sucker that talks nonstop, that you really don’t want to hear anymore? 🤣🤣 In the party chat you can select individuals to mute, or you can also mute the whole party. But it's a bit cumbersome to do while racing and should be done before you're on track. I've been in a few other leagues where i had to mute someone in the party. It sometimes takes a couple races to find out if someone is a non stop talker during the race. It can be hugely distracting, especially if your car feels different for some reason and you're trying to sort that out. I'm sure Dave and Rich will get things sorted out before the next Indycar series. Those guys work hard to make things things enjoyable.
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Post by ReadingRich on Sept 25, 2018 15:22:17 GMT
Hi guys, I have been talking to Dave already about changing things up and we’d started bouncing ideas off each other. Firstly the main reason for the practice is to make sure we get everyone in . Normally if we make it through that we’re good connection wise. It also allows us to get some rubber on to the track as all the rubber we put down in both practice and qualifying carry’s over into the race. Having said that putting all that time in qualifying is something to consider. Laps over time is something I’d originally planned for this season when we were on the last but when that didn’t happen and Dave spoke to Pete about moving here we needed to do something most off us just knew without having think that much about it. What I’ve thought about is making all Road/Street course races timed at the hour will oval races other than Indy would be 30 mins longer and Indy would be the full 200 laps. With regards to red flags, Safty Cars and restarts it something I’m thinking about. Also I have a new rule idea for road/Street course that I think will shake things up a bit.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Sept 25, 2018 16:21:10 GMT
I'm in agreement with doing laps instead of timed races. I have a simple Formula that I use for our Vintage F1 series to determine the number of laps it would take us to do in an hour. I don't mind if we have a practice session or not.
I'm not sure making the oval races longer would be a good thing unless we have a full grid. Pack racing is a lot of fun believe me, but only if there's a pack to race with. The way we get spread out so fast kind of takes away from the experience. What if we were all forced to use the same setup just for Ovals? Rich & Dave could make the setups and give them to us, or we just use the SMS loose/stable for ovals. It might make the races very intense and fun.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Sept 25, 2018 16:26:43 GMT
Hi guys, I have been talking to Dave already about changing things up and we’d started bouncing ideas off each other. Firstly the main reason for the practice is to make sure we get everyone in . Normally if we make it through that we’re good connection wise. It also allows us to get some rubber on to the track as all the rubber we put down in both practice and qualifying carry’s over into the race. Having said that putting all that time in qualifying is something to consider. Laps over time is something I’d originally planned for this season when we were on the last but when that didn’t happen and Dave spoke to Pete about moving here we needed to do something most off us just knew without having think that much about it. What I’ve thought about is making all Road/Street course races timed at the hour will oval races other than Indy would be 30 mins longer and Indy would be the full 200 laps. With regards to red flags, Safty Cars and restarts it something I’m thinking about. Also I have a new rule idea for road/Street course that I think will shake things up a bit. Like Rich has just said, the practice session is there to get everyone connected and stable in the lobby, if we were to go straight to quali then people having connection issues might not make it back to the lobby if everyone is on the circuit pushing for a quick time, 2ndly the track would be so green that it’s more likely that the lap time would be very poor and there’s more chance of shunts because of the low grip levels. Personally, I’d prefer to have the races run over laps rather than time but as Rich mentioned we had to move fairly quickly in establishing this forum and went with a proven framework but it is something we’re looking forwards to improving in the next series. As Rich said we’re working hard to make this series more realistic, engaging and enjoyable and we have a number of things we’re talking about and as and when we work out the wrinkles we’ll openly discuss these ideas with you all and adjust them accordingly. Lastly, with regards to starts, red flags and safety cars, unfortunately a lot of crashes happen at the start of a motor race, yes it is frustrating, yes it does take drivers out of contention and yes it can spoil all the practice work that’s been put in during the build up to the race event, I realise that we all spend our valuable free time to compete and enjoy our racing but....that’s racing fellas, if you want immersive realism then sometimes there will be a massive shunt in the 1st few corners. How many big offs have we had this season? 2 or 3, that’s pretty good for a long season. Indycar has always been a 2 file rolling start and I quite like the uncertainty of what that brings, some you lose some you win, so what I’m saying in a nutshell is that the start procedure is not something we’re going to be looking at changing. Some of the ideas we have a really exciting and will increase the experience for all of us electronic race drivers 🙂
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Post by Nate Michael on Sept 25, 2018 17:36:12 GMT
Hi guys, I have been talking to Dave already about changing things up and we’d started bouncing ideas off each other. Firstly the main reason for the practice is to make sure we get everyone in . Normally if we make it through that we’re good connection wise. It also allows us to get some rubber on to the track as all the rubber we put down in both practice and qualifying carry’s over into the race. Having said that putting all that time in qualifying is something to consider. Laps over time is something I’d originally planned for this season when we were on the last but when that didn’t happen and Dave spoke to Pete about moving here we needed to do something most off us just knew without having think that much about it. What I’ve thought about is making all Road/Street course races timed at the hour will oval races other than Indy would be 30 mins longer and Indy would be the full 200 laps. With regards to red flags, Safty Cars and restarts it something I’m thinking about. Also I have a new rule idea for road/Street course that I think will shake things up a bit. Love it! I would love a full 200 lap Indy too, that would be awesome!
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Sept 25, 2018 18:17:33 GMT
Look forward to hearing the new ideas Rich. Personally I'm hoping we can go real by adding the requirement for both tyre compounds to be used. That should spice things up a bit and add a nice extra strategic element to the proceedings.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Sept 25, 2018 18:24:24 GMT
To keep things organised I'll move the discussions here about the next season to a new discussion thread so it doesn't get lost. That can then be added to as and when anyone has ideas that they want to be put forward for consideration. That way Rich and Dave can easily find all the views and ideas when they are ready to start working on it. I hope that is ok with everyone.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Sept 25, 2018 18:43:07 GMT
This thread is where everyone can put their ideas and views forward for consideration in regard to the next Indycar season. Dave and Rich can use this area to sound us out for their ideas and also pick up everyone else's ideas for consideration in their plans. Please note that this is a discussion for the future and not right now as the next series is already planned and can be found here... consoleracing.boards.net/board/91/xbox-british-tcr-cupThis will be their immediate focus and the next Indycar season will be looked at as and when they are in a position to start work on it. So feel free to contribute here but be aware that it will be taking place after the above noted series is complete. Cheers.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Sept 25, 2018 18:49:03 GMT
This thread is where everyone can put their ideas and views forward for consideration in regard to the next Indycar season. Dave and Rich can use this area to sound us out for their ideas and also pick up everyone else's ideas for consideration in their plans. Please note that this is a discussion for the future and not right now as the next series is already planned and can be found here... consoleracing.boards.net/board/91/xbox-british-tcr-cupThis will be their immediate focus and the next Indycar season will be looked at as and when they are in a position to start work on it. So feel free to contribute here but be aware that it will be taking place after the above noted series is complete. Cheers. Please feel free to suggest any improvement ideas and we’ll discuss as many as we can and get some feedback if we think it’s a workable suggestion
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Post by Nate Michael on Dec 2, 2018 23:56:08 GMT
I’m going through withdrawl here fellas. LOL
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 3, 2018 10:05:11 GMT
I’m going through withdrawl here fellas. LOL Why not jump into the one or both of the other series on here in the meantime Nate. Some good racing to be had in both with a very different challenge in each.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Dec 5, 2018 0:48:36 GMT
I’m going through withdrawl here fellas. LOL Why not jump into the one or both of the other series on here in the meantime Nate. Some good racing to be had in both with a very different challenge in each. I strongly second this Nate. The Vintage F1 League is still open wheel racing, and it looks like we'll be doing a shorter Vintage 1965 USAC Championship car season inbetween F1 seasons next. All 4 ovals, a California highway and maybe willow Springs. I think it would be cool to do this on the off weeks of modern IndyCar/TCR on sat. and merge both groups together for just the Vintage IndyCar stuff and max out the grid. Once complete, we would go back to Wednesday nights for F1.
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Post by Nate Michael on Dec 8, 2018 14:57:54 GMT
Sorry I didn’t see this. What car is the vintage F1? Is this on Wednesdays if I remember correctly? I had a pretty busy last month, so I kind of just fell off on the British cars.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Dec 10, 2018 2:06:02 GMT
Last race is on the 19th in the 1963 Lotus Type 25 Climax at Le-Mans Historic
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 10, 2018 9:36:16 GMT
Sorry I didn’t see this. What car is the vintage F1? Is this on Wednesdays if I remember correctly? I had a pretty busy last month, so I kind of just fell off on the British cars. These cars in this series are one of the best challenges in the game. None of the on rails feel you get with the Indycars, chuck these about and you'll get bitten real quickl lol.
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Post by Nate Michael on Dec 10, 2018 20:24:39 GMT
Sorry I didn’t see this. What car is the vintage F1? Is this on Wednesdays if I remember correctly? I had a pretty busy last month, so I kind of just fell off on the British cars. These cars in this series are one of the best challenges in the game. None of the on rails feel you get with the Indycars, chuck these about and you'll get bitten real quickl lol. You sold me. I’ll check them out today! Thanks mate
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Post by ReadingRich on Jan 3, 2019 0:15:50 GMT
I’ll be finishing up the schedule/ rules for next season to hand to Pete/Dave for final approval. With only a couple of month till we go green I for one can’t wait to get back in the IndyCar. I’ll also are the car list ready for sign ups for when everything is approved.
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