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Post by XRF HammerPH on Feb 28, 2020 15:09:31 GMT
Nice one Micko. Sounds like a lot of fun. I actually can't remember the last time I raced in pCars2 with any sort of variable weather and certainly it's longer ago than I can remember since I have raced in wet conditions so it's going to be an interesting one that's for sure. Now we have finished our latest round of the vintage F1 season I can start to look at getting a bit of time on track for this one. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Out of interest what level AI do you race against? Have you had to change it for the varying conditions or did you leave it the same as in the dry? I ran the AI at 100 with Aggression at 35. This seemed to be about right for my speed however they were a pain up the top straight where they gained unrealistically towards the "bus stop" chicane so I blocked them (Sean knows what I mean LOL) but they still run into the back of me. On other parts of the track they were incredible slow especially turn 9 in sector 3. The only fear I have for the Race is relating to the guys not on Xbox X as with a full grid the old box may not cope with the weather. Cheers Micko, You do have to be careful with them and spend a bit of time learning where they are fast and where they are slow. Nothing more annoying than finding that out partway through a race! Your point about those on the original Xbox is well founded. That is one of the reasons why we have not utilised the varying conditions available because we had to remove them from the vintage series due to the problems they were causing for those on that machine.
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Post by niblips on Feb 28, 2020 16:15:14 GMT
Karl Fuss/XRFniblips/Aston Martin #22
I'm in, and i should be on a new system so there shouldn't be any chatter from me complaining about the handling.....just about my stupidity and crashes...lol
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Post by Dale Rossi on Feb 28, 2020 16:47:51 GMT
FWIW I always put the aggression at 100. Don't really see any benefit to racing against bots when I am practicing against humans who are still more unpredictable than 100 aggression AI.
The AI is really good in this game, maybe second only to Assetto (depending on settings). However, they take the same aggressive braking points on a full tank as on an empty tank. That can make it tough.
This race is basically 40% dry and 60% wet. Should be a lot of different setups and there won't be any one perfect setup IMO.
Increasing steering ratio in the wet is always helpful. For example, the Stable ratio for the C7R is 15 and the Loose ratio is 13.5. The tighter it is, the quicker you can steer (think 360 degrees for open wheel vs 540 to 900 for GT and road cars). That quick twitch steering is a risk in the wet. YMMV
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Feb 28, 2020 20:55:56 GMT
Karl Fuss/XRFniblips/Aston Martin #22 I'm in, and i should be on a new system so there shouldn't be any chatter from me complaining about the handling.....just about my stupidity and crashes...lol Great news Karl. Let's hope that's the end of your woes 👍. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Feb 29, 2020 1:11:38 GMT
I just had my first test here. Half a dozen TT laps with a best of 1:42.7 and then custom race mode with our quali and race settings.
Quali I managed a 1:42.328 but that was 2 seconds shy of the 100/100 AI 😞. How much does the aggression factor into their overall pace? Does lower equate to them being any slower or does it only effect how they overtake, etc.? I'll test it out at a lower setting next chance I get.
Just did the first 5 laps of the race and race pace was mid 43's - 44. Hopefully can take some time off that in the week we've got left if I can squeeze in some decent practice time 👍
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Post by Dale Rossi on Feb 29, 2020 21:33:50 GMT
I just had my first test here. Half a dozen TT laps with a best of 1:42.7 and then custom race mode with our quali and race settings. Quali I managed a 1:42.328 but that was 2 seconds shy of the 100/100 AI 😞. How much does the aggression factor into their overall pace? Does lower equate to them being any slower or does it only effect how they overtake, etc.? I'll test it out at a lower setting next chance I get. Just did the first 5 laps of the race and race pace was mid 43's - 44. Hopefully can take some time off that in the week we've got left if I can squeeze in some decent practice time 👍 It can vary by seconds, but it isn't about speed. Even if you have skill set on 50 for AI, or whatever someone is comfortable with, set Aggression at 100 (Max). Otherwise, what is the point? If 100/100 is too fast, or 70/100 is too slow, adjust the first number but leave the aggression at 100 always. JMHO Otherwise, you're just practicing hotlapping..when best practice is to practice Racing.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Feb 29, 2020 21:36:37 GMT
I've posted before, but regarding 100 Agression and practice, this sums it up better than I can. Cliffsnotes: What are you practicing FOR?
Take for example last lap last week. Micko is experienced with racing. If he was just a fast hot lapper, he wouldn't have won that race. 100% guaranteed and I think he would agree with that completely.
Just trying to make myself and everyone else else better because we all benefit from it.
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Post by iang0355 on Feb 29, 2020 23:06:05 GMT
I'd like to sign up if possible. Not sure what vehicle yet. Will update when I get home from work tonight in a couple hours. Ian Gizowski/itzEEEONNN355/M6 GTLM #44
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Feb 29, 2020 23:42:54 GMT
I've posted before, but regarding 100 Agression and practice, this sums it up better than I can. Cliffsnotes: What are you practicing FOR? Take for example last lap last week. Micko is experienced with racing. If he was just a fast hot lapper, he wouldn't have won that race. 100% guaranteed and I think he would agree with that completely. Just trying to make myself and everyone else else better because we all benefit from it. Yeah I agree for this series 100 doesn't seem too bad. Definitely not the case in all series though because you couldn't get away with the contact that this level of aggression can result in for instance in Vintage or Indycars which are fragile in the extreme in comparison to the GTE cars that are pretty much like tanks.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Feb 29, 2020 23:50:09 GMT
I'd like to sign up if possible. Not sure what vehicle yet. Will update when I get home from work tonight in a couple hours. Ian Gizowski/itzEEEONNN355/TBD I've added you as reserve here initially. See my response in the league signup thread for details 👍
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Post by Dale Rossi on Mar 1, 2020 1:51:29 GMT
I've posted before, but regarding 100 Agression and practice, this sums it up better than I can. Cliffsnotes: What are you practicing FOR? Take for example last lap last week. Micko is experienced with racing. If he was just a fast hot lapper, he wouldn't have won that race. 100% guaranteed and I think he would agree with that completely. Just trying to make myself and everyone else else better because we all benefit from it. Yeah I agree for this series 100 doesn't seem too bad. Definitely not the case in all series though because you couldn't get away with the contact that this level of aggression can result in for instance in Vintage or Indycars which are fragile in the extreme in comparison to the GTE cars that are pretty much like tanks. Totally understandable. At the same time, in a lobby of 15 or 16 in any car, there is going to be pressure and contact. Hopefully the actual races aren't as bad, but if they are, it's good experience. Also a good idea to practice with full damage. Track limits are on in the series, but that is a good one to have on, too. Biggest problem I have that everyone seems to also notice is just how aggressive the AI is in their braking points. Full tank, rain, old tires, doesn't matter for them.lol
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 1, 2020 8:54:37 GMT
Yeah I agree for this series 100 doesn't seem too bad. Definitely not the case in all series though because you couldn't get away with the contact that this level of aggression can result in for instance in Vintage or Indycars which are fragile in the extreme in comparison to the GTE cars that are pretty much like tanks. Totally understandable. At the same time, in a lobby of 15 or 16 in any car, there is going to be pressure and contact. Hopefully the actual races aren't as bad, but if they are, it's good experience. Also a good idea to practice with full damage. Track limits are on in the series, but that is a good one to have on, too. Biggest problem I have that everyone seems to also notice is just how aggressive the AI is in their braking points. Full tank, rain, old tires, doesn't matter for them.lol We race full damage in the vintage series, always have 👍
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Post by nealson6711 on Mar 1, 2020 12:40:14 GMT
IN Neale / XRF JAMESON corvette C7R N.o 64
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Joeri
Semi Pro
Posts: 72
Console Type: Xbox
Gamertag: joeriRSD
Location: Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
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Post by Joeri on Mar 1, 2020 18:16:16 GMT
Got a message from Dave on Xbox today. Didn’t want to put my name down yet, as I am not 100% sure my rig will be in. Will have contact with Sim-Lab tomorrow. They are 10 miles from my home, so picking it up by car, lucky me!
Can my name be put tentative? (let you know Wednesday latest if I am able to join)
Joeri/joeriRSD/Ford GT LM/Heritage Racing #2
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Mar 1, 2020 19:14:53 GMT
Yep Wednesday is fine Joeri. We open up slots to reserves after Thursday so if you aren't available we'll open your place up to anyone that is available.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Mar 2, 2020 13:57:20 GMT
Totally understandable. At the same time, in a lobby of 15 or 16 in any car, there is going to be pressure and contact. Hopefully the actual races aren't as bad, but if they are, it's good experience. Also a good idea to practice with full damage. Track limits are on in the series, but that is a good one to have on, too. Biggest problem I have that everyone seems to also notice is just how aggressive the AI is in their braking points. Full tank, rain, old tires, doesn't matter for them.lol We race full damage in the vintage series, always have 👍 Good to hear, I prefer full damage, too.
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Post by Liamatkin23 on Mar 2, 2020 15:20:06 GMT
Liam Atkin/liamatkin23/ Porsche 911 gt3 R #14
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Post by hurtmagurt on Mar 2, 2020 20:43:53 GMT
Liam Atkin/liamatkin23/ Porsche 911 gt3 R #14 We are racing GTE not GT3
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Post by Dale Rossi on Mar 2, 2020 22:32:32 GMT
I know Pafiero is in one of the 911 RSR. Whiteregulus is in the other, but not sure if he is suing this race
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Post by Liamatkin23 on Mar 4, 2020 9:36:26 GMT
Sorry my mistake liam Atkin/liamatkin23 SMP Racing Ferrari 488 GTE #72
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