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Post by XRF HammerPH on Aug 11, 2020 14:09:23 GMT
Although I know there has been a lot of antipathy towards this new direction that SMS are taking with the new Project Cars game I think that as a virtual racing community we have to try to be open minded and make sure we have a space here for anyone that wants to race with the game. There is a good FAQ posted on the official forums which although is not the one that is being put together from the questions asked in the pCars3 Discord is still interesting and has some useful information. You can find that here:- forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?68578-Project-CARS-3-FAQ-(Frequently-Asked-Questions)Let's not forget as well that any people new to Project Cars might look at this new game and as a result find there way here where we can introduce them to the deeper game as well so it's something that can benefit us in that way. I'll post anything else here that is of interest as and when it crops o=up over the coming couple of weeks before release.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Aug 14, 2020 22:06:31 GMT
From what i've gathered since the announcement that the game is coming out on August 28th is that the Project Cars franchise is pretty much on it's death bed. That Ian Bell is just another greedy sociopath big company CEO no different than the ones who run EA or Activision. Lies, lies, and then some more lies about their product just to get their precious money.
Anywhere that comments are allowed is nothing but people making sarcastic remarks about magic tyres and the pitstops. I've been blocked from looking at the PCars forums even though I haven't been on there to post anything since I advertised for our 1972 F1 season. I've been blocked from the Project Cars Twitter because they are trying to silence any posts that don't say how much they're looking forward to buying the game. SMS doesn't listen to their community and they handle criticism worse than a teenage girl does, I won't be supporting SMS or Codemasters any further.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Aug 14, 2020 22:56:51 GMT
I've had similar feelings when the news was first released and of course would much prefer they released a more realism based game. However, where i've eased my antipathy towards them is in the hope that this game is the precursor to pCars 4 that is more aligned with what we want and without the success of this new direction that frankly will not happen.
I have got so much out of both previous incarnations of the game that i'm prepared to cut them some slack with this one. Clearly it's an effort to break into the Forza type market and if it works and they get the money in then it could be good news going forward. Of course there are no guarantees but for what they've given us with the first two games I am not going to shoot them down in flames just yet. The biggest mistake they've made is in not making it clear that this was an offshoot rather than a sequel to the previous two games. A new name would have seen them given much more slack in my view.
I had completely missed the Ian Bell comment about it going to be along the lines of the Shift series and that was back in 2018 so it should not have come as a big surprise when the news was released a couple of months ago.
Bottom line is none of us are buying it blind with no knowledge of what it is. We can buy it or not, that's our choice. I have come around to the possibility that it may fit in my library as something to just have some casual fun with. Especially as my time is so limited these days and starting a session with pCars2 is not always something I have time for. It certainly won't replace pCars2 as my main racing title but it may supplement it and give me something to mess about with in those moments when I'm too knackered to get into the more in depth format of pCars2 or ACC.
There has been a lot of information in Discord and other discussions that have made me think long and hard about it and I do actually think that it will sell very well. I've seen enough to know that there is a fair degree of positivity for it in the various forums and media to believe it may well be a success. Their own forums have probably the been most negative while others reflect a bit of a different outlook now that people have come to terms with what this is and what it isn't.
There's a group of people whose opinions I respect that will be getting it a few days early and then i'll make a decision on whether it's something I could use. I also have an option to exchange it for something rise if i pick it up myself and it prices to be a lemon.
Just my thoughts on it after a lot of consideration, reading, viewing and discussion.
If it bombs pCars 2 will be the only option for us going forward, other than the more limited format racing of ACC if they ever get it up to speed. If it's a success there is hope for something more going forward.
I have made many adverse comments on the new direction over the first few weeks but have not been blocked from any of their media or forums so there may be some other reason for that Tyler.
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Post by outsider819 on Aug 15, 2020 5:37:08 GMT
Still taking a wait and see myself. I've aired my concerns to be sure. We'll see what the reviews say. I think it will be pretty tough to do proper league racing (or what most of us consider it to be, anyway) on this one, it could (depending on who you listen to, I have heard conflicting reports) still be a great driving game. Please share anything you hear, some of us really do want to know.
This is really a tough time for console racing fans. There's some good stuff over on the PC side, but here we are. ACC I've held off on until they fix it some and maybe get some more content. Pretty tough to run the 500 on a game with a max of 99 laps as I've heard PC3 has, and I'm not sure that with no tire wear and fuel use if there's much point in it. Turn 10 is talking a good game but FM8 is delayed and frankly, we've seen their act before.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Aug 15, 2020 18:24:03 GMT
I was hoping for the same thing as Pete that SMS needs more funds to be able to make the real next Project Cars installment for the Xbox Series X. However as a Community Assisted Racing Simulator they sure as haven't asked for assistance from their community. They'd much rather silence us than work together with us.
I'm guessing they blocked me from their Twitter because they can't take a joke:
However anything i've ever said on the PCars forums was nothing except positive and friendly but for no reason at all I can't access the forum section on the official PCars site, it's been that way since the new game was announced to release on the 28th.
I don't understand why they are acting like this. It's clear to me that they don't need or want my help so I will do just that and not support them moving forward. I'm not even mad or too disappointed either, i've learned that there is still a great racing community out there and give it time we'll find another great racing game.
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Post by XRF Lemarrrr on Aug 21, 2020 11:48:36 GMT
I’ve also been barred on Twitter by these fools, clearly they don’t want any constructive criticism
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Aug 22, 2020 6:09:52 GMT
Unfortunately going forward Forza is the only new thing on the distant horizon and that has never fit in with the realism aspect we've all craved. We are a very niche market and it's difficult for anyone to look at that market and think it can pay them to cater to it.
It's the biggest reason for the push to PC and tbh the main reason I haven't looked at that yet is the fact that i'm so limited on time so the outlay is not really something I can justify at the moment.
I'll look at pCars3 on release and if it can provide me with something that I can jump in for half an hour for some quick fun a couple of times a week then maybe i'll give it a shot. That's about my limit at the moment for time to devote to anything which is not enough to get into pCars2 practice for any worthwhile serious practice hence why i'm looking elsewhere at the moment.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Aug 22, 2020 23:40:32 GMT
There's some good content in this almost 4 hour mega review of the game. It's from the PC version and i'm trying to find an Xbox one but this provides some good insight into what the game is all about.
I quite like what i've seen apart from the very short races that career starts out with. Apparently they do increase as you progress but i'll have to watch more to see how quickly that happens and how many laps they move to at different stages. I certainly can see where it will have some good entertainment value in a very different and more casual way than pCars2.
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Post by outsider819 on Aug 23, 2020 3:47:56 GMT
Certainly nothing wrong with an entertaining game. Looking forward to you (and others) to get hold of it (and get the 32 GB day one patch as well) so we can hear what it's really like from real people. No pressure!
There's also nothing wrong with mining PC2 for more serious series, one-offs, etc, while playing the new one alongside. Seems to me there's plenty there to work with still. In a way it would actually work well as you wouldn't have to mentally adjust as much from one to the other as much as going from say, PC2 to Forza.
As for the future, who knows...at the moment I can't be bothered to get back into the maddening (and expensive) world of PC gaming myself.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Aug 23, 2020 7:33:55 GMT
One of the things i'm not keen on is the lack of damage as that can lead to very unrealistic racing with the temptation to just barge past or through other cars rather than clean pass them. That will especially be the case in the short career races where time to work your way through the fields will be limited.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Aug 23, 2020 16:25:36 GMT
Time has seemed a little cruel lately hasn't it? It's going by so fast that I can't catch up and feel like i'm about to be lapped. Wish we could use Link's Ocarina to slow down the flow of time like in Majora's Mask. I've been struggling myself to find time to devote to racing, any time I do spend racing is practicing for IndyCar or preparing for the next Vintage F1 season which is close to being ready for me to post up by the way I wanted to do a couple one offs on our Wednesdays while we've been on break in between these two seasons but I haven't felt like putting an event together as it's been nice actually having a break. I may have also accidentally introduced my almost 6 year old daughter into the world of Halo 😬, and quite a bit of my time has gone to that, she loves all the vehicles, scenery, flashing plasma etc. The digital world of racing has come so far in these last 30 years, i'm very thankful for what we have with all the advancements in technology and what we have going on here in this community. I've gone from 8-bit and using a joystick against computer drivers to 4K resolution and using the whole shebang against real drivers. Making a move to PCars3 just doesn't feel like taking a step in the right direction for me. I feel like I get the most use out of my driving time by practicing in 1 or 2 cars and on one track at a time, then testing my abilities with others that are doing the same thing. If I could i'd be racing in real life for real but with the accessibility of PCars2 in regards to dynamic weather, tyre physics, and overall racecraft especially for consoles I think we may have stumbled upon the next best thing.
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Post by outsider819 on Aug 25, 2020 14:37:24 GMT
Well, some player reviews in, so far the best and most reasoned discussion is at GT Planet, people who like it or don't who are able to articulate an argument either way.
Sadly (or fortunately, can't decide), no option to disable motion blur means I will probably have to give it a miss for now. Don't need another game with exaggerated effects that I can't play without a headache.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Sept 6, 2020 1:01:26 GMT
From what i've gathered since the announcement that the game is coming out on August 28th is that the Project Cars franchise is pretty much on it's death bed. That Ian Bell is just another greedy sociopath big company CEO no different than the ones who run EA or Activision. Lies, lies, and then some more lies about their product just to get their precious money. Anywhere that comments are allowed is nothing but people making sarcastic remarks about magic tyres and the pitstops. I've been blocked from looking at the PCars forums even though I haven't been on there to post anything since I advertised for our 1972 F1 season. I've been blocked from the Project Cars Twitter because they are trying to silence any posts that don't say how much they're looking forward to buying the game. SMS doesn't listen to their community and they handle criticism worse than a teenage girl does, I won't be supporting SMS or Codemasters any further. Agree. I was worried when Codemasters bought them, but this is some kind of sick joke. What is just as bad is ACC may even be worse. ACC has been a kick to the nuts and I'm done with that for the foreseeable future. They literally went out of their way to remove keyboard support,so now we can't adjust cameras at all. No FOV and ridiculously expensive private servers while pulling that crap is inexcusable. I have PCars 3 and will check it out when the McLaren Challenge is over, have the Quarterfinals coming up. If there is no redeemable racing in PC3, then there really is no other choice but to go to PC. Really, really don't want to have to do that. If PCars 2 is the only viable sim racer on console for the next 5 years or so, that's no good because there is 0% chance there will be any sort of updates to it.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Sept 6, 2020 1:41:41 GMT
I forgot that PCars3 came out lol.
It's almost like all the downgrades to these games are happening on purpose so people move to sim racing on PC? Still a lot of racing that can be done on PCars2 yet imo, but it's looking more and more like my next big racing game will be on PC when I do eventually get a new game.
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Post by Dale Rossi on Sept 6, 2020 13:08:24 GMT
I forgot that PCars3 came out lol. It's almost like all the downgrades to these games are happening on purpose so people move to sim racing on PC? Still a lot of racing that can be done on PCars2 yet imo, but it's looking more and more like my next big racing game will be on PC when I do eventually get a new game. It's incredible, isn't it? ACC and PC3 had so much promise! I gamed strictly on PC for years and it had its advantages, especially for sim racing. In comparison, it is a massive headache and that was a big reason for going to console. Occasionally, I do still like to play COD, Madden, Red Dead etc. I'll get the new console just because I'm a sucker and will go from there.
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