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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 11, 2018 14:41:46 GMT
What time is everyone planning on today? I'll be on at about 4/10 unless we want to do 4:30/10:30
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 11, 2018 14:47:43 GMT
I can host the test if you all want, and I think it is best to test at the track we will be driving at so we can develop what we can do with the track we are going to.
Testing at a different track other than what we are going to next doesn't seem logical since this game is not logical and will throw you off every time.
Available anytime.
Oh yeah, great video Sgt. !!
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 11, 2018 14:57:55 GMT
I can host the test if you all want, and I think it is best to test at the track we will be driving at so we can develop what we can do with the track we are going to. Testing at a different track other than what we are going to next doesn't seem logical since this game is not logical and will throw you off every time. Available anytime. Oh yeah, great video Sgt. !! Monaco is the first race and it may not be the best place for a test of everything we need to do because the likelihood is people will crash out before we get to test things properly. I get where you are coming from though and the problem we have is without testing at every track there is always the chance that we will come across something at the actual race that we did not discover in the tests at a different track. Maybe start the test at somewhere that we have had problems in the past (Rouen for example) but end at Monaco with some testing. I am happy with whatever is decided though.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 11, 2018 14:59:56 GMT
What time is everyone planning on today? I'll be on at about 4/10 unless we want to do 4:30/10:30 I'll probably get on around 10ish.. bear in mind though that it is World Cup semi-final night for England.. so there may be some drink driving going on
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 11, 2018 15:00:28 GMT
Thanks as always Pete, and that sounds good if you wanna host. Just make sure you have the settings like I have on the League Format and rules page here. You'll be messing with them a lot tonight as we change the perimeters for each trial
We need to do more than just Monaco tonight though to see if we can even do certain tracks like the Nordschleife. It's going to be more work tonight and not as much fun but it's so we don't have problems like last season...
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 11, 2018 15:02:31 GMT
What time is everyone planning on today? I'll be on at about 4/10 unless we want to do 4:30/10:30 I'll probably get on around 10ish.. bear in mind though that it is World Cup semi-final night for England.. so there may be some drink driving going on No problem mate as i've got a couple beers for tonight as well 😁
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 11, 2018 15:36:50 GMT
I'll probably get on around 10ish.. bear in mind though that it is World Cup semi-final night for England.. so there may be some drink driving going on No problem mate as i've got a couple beers for tonight as well 😁 No problem, I'll set up a lobby now so that I can just go back to it later when we are ready.
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 11, 2018 19:21:09 GMT
tested at at Azure, Med Cloud to LT rain, 2 humans + 10 AI, no issues. FFB was RAW92/28/88/8
Going to Nurb Comb now. Quite a bit stronger forces, FFB was RAW82/33/90/0, rain cylce was OK
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 11, 2018 23:17:59 GMT
A Special thank you to Pete for all your hard work today! It helped tremendously and we definitely found out some things.
Much like the Formula Rookie cars me and Y22 drove last fall (around patch 2 or 3), the tyres on the 25 cool down when it's wet. It's drivable until you hit a puddle and Rouen was nearly the same as it was when we ran it in the 49. We should at least be able to run every circuit in light rain if we needed to though which is awesome!
The Formula Rookie cars' slick tyre wouldn't get up to temperature AT ALL! Luckily, the Vintage tyre stay up to temp until the rain with the 25. I'll have to test out a much lower tyre pressure to see if they stay up to temp. They almost seemed to cool off too fast which was like the F.Rookie car.
I don't have any problem with beginning the Season next week if nobody else does! I would like to run some sort of training session before next wed. for those that need help with setups or handling the car if I get time
Thanks again to those who participated tonight!
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 11, 2018 23:46:24 GMT
Sorry about tonight, bad timing with the World Cup Semi-final and I was not in the best of mindsets for racing afterwards.
The race I did do my engine blew on the second lap so I didn't get any useful information at all.
Struggling you get back into any kind of racing over the last few weeks tbh. I've barely had my Xbox turned on so need to find a way to get some motivation again.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 12, 2018 1:01:06 GMT
It's all good. I haven't been in the racing mood lately either apart from our IndyCar League.
I do know that you need to open up the radiator a lot with this car from it's default. You have to be careful about redlining it too or risk it overheating.
We can and probably should hold off for another week or two if needed.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jul 12, 2018 8:52:33 GMT
Not sure what it is tbh, I thought I wold be chomping at the bit to get back to racing after my vacation but I am finding I just can't be bothered and definitely have no motivation for working on any setups. I'll continue to manage things on this site though going forward but just not sure at this time about my participation. If I can find some solid time on track then it will hopefully change my mood but at the moment the F1 2018 beta is all that has peaked my interest to race.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 12:03:42 GMT
You'll be fine once the season starts Peter
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Post by niblips on Jul 12, 2018 13:18:32 GMT
Sorry to miss the testing last night guys, my mother-in-law is in town. She's leaving this morning though so it should be back to normal soon.
Regarding the start time: I guess it depends on how long our sessions are. if they are going to be reaching two hours then it's better to start earlier at 5pm. If we want to have slightly longer races then maybe we should just drop the practice session before quali. Personally i don't utilize those session for practice at all as i always get testing in well before the night of the race, and i would expect everyone else does as well. If we go straight to quali that will save some time, and maybe the guys across the pond will get to bed earlier as a result. On top of that, if there are ever issues with getting people into the lobby (like we have had before) it makes the session that much longer with a practice session then quali then the race.
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 12, 2018 14:56:01 GMT
I could be wrong, but I have the Type 25 tires set for 1.31 cold running around 1.58 hot at 85 ~ 88°C. That's with a typical 31/45°C track temp. And they were just slightly less in the light rain test.
At Spa with a lowered amb/trk temp set up I ran about 1.28 cold to get a 1.60 hot pressure. The data says they are GP67 Vintage tires, 40 ~ 90°C range. So I usually shoot for about 80°C something.
Of course the theory only works if the game supports it, so I'm not totally sure about the numbers, I just start with the theory numbers, and then go with what feels good and works over a variety of situations.
On the rain settings, it seemed to work fine, especially at medium to low speeds. But on faster straights the rain was super slick and scary, and adds another dimension to the race. Trying to plan a strategy regarding "when" the rain will actually occur on any given track definitely makes it more interesting.
My G920 FFB at Monaco was RAW 92/28/88/8, but at Nurb-Comb it had to be lowered to RAW 76/33/92/0 to get the same relative feel I had at other tracks. I started putting each FFB set up in the tune description so I can keep track of all the variations and just load the numbers when I load in the tune.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 12, 2018 21:27:54 GMT
No worries, no worries! I think Matthew is right and the excitement will return after a race or 2. I've barely been on Xbox myself and finding it hard to want to even practice for Saturday's race. I have my setup as good as I'll ever be able to get it anyway for it.
I agree with Karl that maybe we should skip the practice sessions. I can give everyone my setups for each round if it speeds things up? The only thing that needs work are my tyre pressures, fuel and maybe a couple gears here and there otherwise I have my own base setup for each of the 10 tracks(had to in order to get adverage lap times).
Do we want to hold off for another week, remove the practice sessions and keep the planned start time of 4pm/5pm/10pm?
Also do we want hour long or hour and a half long races like it's set to now?
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Post by niblips on Jul 13, 2018 19:18:51 GMT
I would think an hour race would be good.... especially if guys fall behind in large chunks like last season.
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Post by XRF Formula1 on Jul 13, 2018 20:06:14 GMT
I would think an hour race would be good.... especially if guys fall behind in large chunks like last season. Alright sounds good! I changed the laps so they represent the time it takes us to complete the circuits in an hour rather than an hour and a half. I also got rid of the practice session. I left the schedule to start this wed on the 18th at 4pm/5pm/10pm unless anyone has any doubts. We probably could even start at 430/530/1030 because of the shorter session times now. This car seems to be much more friendly to the processor and if people on the Vanilla Xbox aren't really having issues (Pete!) then I'm all for beginning!
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Post by y22rydr on Jul 13, 2018 22:27:26 GMT
I will probably not be able to make the 5pm (EST) this Wednesday (18th). I have a class that runs until 4:30 (EST) and it will take me at least 45 minutes to get home. The following week (25th) I won't make it because I have a minor surgery I am getting done. Those are my current conflicts.
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Post by Shneeb108 on Jul 13, 2018 22:40:03 GMT
I have no issues, I have all my work-arounds in place.
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