Well I bought it but convince me to play it

That was how I found it too inthebagbud as my post in the other thread indicated. I have now got it to feel much better in terms of road feel but I'm not there on the feeling of grip loss, etc. It's almost like you have to compromise one for the other rather than being able to get the best of both worlds.

Its still very rough feeling for me as well, very lumpy or jerky and I think that's why the more subtle feedback gets somewhat lost.

There's plenty more to tweak yet to try to find that sweet spot so I'm still hopefull that's it's hidden there somewhere.

The settings have to be different per car too as I took the Indycar out at the Glen this morning and the FFB was very weak in comparison to in the Ferrari GT3 yesterday where it was overly strong. So you'll need to keep a record of settings per car. They should have at least given the option to save presets for each car to save changing them each time. I don't think that's in the game but maybe I've missed it so will check next time.

Strange your feeling is so different between the demo and full game as the demo was inclusive of the patch I thought. You sure you've updated the game with patch 3? For me it has improved somewhat with that although I don't think it's mentioned as being changed in the notes.

Tone also effects the road surface feel as well from what I remember of the descriptions. That's why it's quite difficult to get them both exactly how you want because they are bound up in a single slider.

In the GT3 I was driving Friday I had to have the gain turned down quite a lot from what they had it on default but when I jumped in the Indycar it was too low so I had to dial it up again.

Which of the flavours are you using inthebagbud. I'm on RAW at the moment.

I used one of the race pre-sets for the first time this morning but I'm not quite sure how they've been set up overall. I'll have to investigate further. I usually like to have total freedom in my race selections but providing these don't handicap that option then they could be useful.

Cheers inthebagbud I'll have a proper read of that thread.

I'll try them at default again add maybe it's changed since the patch but I ran them for a fair few laps when I first played the game.

GT3 was way over-powered on default for me I had to turn it down to 40.

Nice story on your son... how old is he and how comes he doesn't frequent his old man's playground here lol

How were the AI and what level did you have them at? I thought they were pretty good in my GT3 race the other day but in the Indycar they are like a bunch of angry hornets and a bit of a liability. It seems that the higher you set them the less intelligent they become lol. I'll play around with the aggression level as that may need to be lower in that class of car. Maybe open wheelers in general.

Have to admit that driving the Indycar Chevrolet around Long Beach today was the most I've felt like an Indycar driver since my PC Indycar sim days. Something about that track that is just Indycar through and through 👍

Cheers for the tips. When you say map the Tone and Volume to buttons how does that work exactly? Does the button increment the setting in single steps? That being the case do you need to map 2 buttons... one to increase and another to decrease? I'm not able to check myself today so just curious.

y22rydr I have to agree on the setups in that they are pretty much good to go but the section with differentials is very hard to understand and seems to be filled with words and options that make it overly complicated.

I do find tyre temps are an issue on the limited cars I have driven and I understand this time round the goal is achieving correct pressure rather than focusing on temps - but I have found that some just will not get hot

I am in early days so not fully conversant yet

Differentials: I have found this post in the forums helpful

Tyre pressure: Try this one for baseline settings

Tire compound choice based on temperatures here.

The last one resulted in making an excel spreadsheet which highlights the recommended tire compound based on ambient and track temperatures. I can send your way if you desire. 

Here is the spreadsheet for your use. The top has two cells, one for ambient temp, the other for track temp. It is protected, but not with a password. Just makes it easier for me to tab through the cells I want to use. Also there is a camber/pressure analysis under the temp selector. That part is still a work in process, I have carried it over from its original use when chasing tire temps. The camber analysis portion is still valid.

Project Cars 2 tires.xlsm (31.86 KB)

I tried out the Indycar at Indianapolis last night and have to say the FFB was a major disappointment for the most part and highlighted more frustrating and annoying design decisions from SMS.

I actually thought the lost FFB bug had hit again but then I realised that it wasn't lost but was just really weak. Virtually no FFB even if going over the grass, no forces at work on the wheel when going at 200+mph through the turns and zero wheel weight either. I changed to the various flavours but felt no difference whatsoever and then played around with the settings and ended up maxing everything out but still it was very weak. I pretty much gave up at that point and then started testing out the button mapping with my little wireless keyboard and mapped Tone and Volume to it. It seemed to work but was a bit intermittent although i know the keyboard batteries needed charging so will put it down to that. I was disappointed to find that you get no visual indication of the change like you do when changing brake bias for instance so have no idea whether it's worked or what you've changed it to unless you pause and go back to the menu to check which kind of defeats the object really.

At that point after fiddling with the button mapping suddenly there was heavy wheel weight and improved FFB which I then had to turn down. It seems the inconsistency of how the FFB works is worse than the first game.

As for the frustrating design decision what I'm referring to is that when you adjust the individual sliders within the flavours it charges them for all flavours rather than individually.. WTF who comes up with these ideas!!!