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Post by inthebagbud on Dec 15, 2017 17:50:01 GMT
XRF HammerPH tried both the chevy and the Honda on Indianapolis and can confirm no ffb at all . Only thing I could get was some wheel weight turning but no weight transfer or surface feel at all. I won't be going back there in a hurry I then took it to cadwell park and got some more feel from turning and slides but still not good . Will have to wait till they fix ffb I'm afraid
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 15, 2017 20:15:51 GMT
Cheers inthebagbud good to have it confirmed by another. I'm surprised this had not been mentioned on the forums especially as the lack of promised ovals from pCars 1 was hammered so much. I assumed those oval guys would have been all over this problem. Its a real shame and something that has clearly just been allowed through as it is not something they could possibly have missed. I've brought it up in the TX FFB thread so let's see if it gets picked up. I guess oval racing is off the agenda for the foreseeable unless you can deal with the lack of FFB.
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 16, 2017 0:10:23 GMT
Well it has in fact been posted to the forums but no one from SMS has come along to answer anythung about it. Some other oval based queries are being addressed but not that one.
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Post by inthebagbud on Dec 16, 2017 7:30:26 GMT
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 16, 2017 9:15:38 GMT
Yeah that's the thread I was referring too. Hopefully someone from SMS will answer but the fact it's been up there for a month with no response indicates it's one of those problems that they prefer to avoid. A bit like the lack of promised ovals question from pCars 1 :/
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Post by inthebagbud on Dec 18, 2017 13:20:38 GMT
Well have another play around at weekend and I found the FFB to be so weak on the Fanatec I have gone back top Pcars 1.
I set up the exact same car/course and tune on both and decided not to waste more time on it until P4 drops to see if that resolves the issue.
Major ball drop by SMS
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 18, 2017 14:58:22 GMT
Well have another play around at weekend and I found the FFB to be so weak on the Fanatec I have gone back top Pcars 1. I set up the exact same car/course and tune on both and decided not to waste more time on it until P4 drops to see if that resolves the issue. Major ball drop by SMS Are you referring to just the ovals or the game in general? Tbh I am considering suggesting to the Indy League guys that we do the same thing until they have finished with the big patches and race the first game as the disenchantment with this one has seen a real drop in interest in the league.
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Post by inthebagbud on Dec 18, 2017 19:44:08 GMT
Well have another play around at weekend and I found the FFB to be so weak on the Fanatec I have gone back top Pcars 1. I set up the exact same car/course and tune on both and decided not to waste more time on it until P4 drops to see if that resolves the issue. Major ball drop by SMS Are you referring to just the ovals or the game in general? Tbh I am considering suggesting to the Indy League guys that we do the same thing until they have finished with the big patches and race the first game as the disenchantment with this one has seen a real drop in interest in the league. My disenchantment is more related to the FFB ball which kills any kind of enjoyment of the game. We have touched on it before that sms seem to make some poor judgements , I mean with all the flack they got over ovals not appearing in pcars1 you would have thought it would be the dogs and would be rammed down the throats of all the deniers but you heard nothing . Again we have lots of console issues and all you get is well what do you expect with what we are asking the consoles to do. In my book that's not good enough
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Dec 19, 2017 10:53:08 GMT
Are you referring to just the ovals or the game in general? Tbh I am considering suggesting to the Indy League guys that we do the same thing until they have finished with the big patches and race the first game as the disenchantment with this one has seen a real drop in interest in the league. My disenchantment is more related to the FFB ball which kills any kind of enjoyment of the game. We have touched on it before that sms seem to make some poor judgements , I mean with all the flack they got over ovals not appearing in pcars1 you would have thought it would be the dogs and would be rammed down the throats of all the deniers but you heard nothing . Again we have lots of console issues and all you get is well what do you expect with what we are asking the consoles to do. In my book that's not good enough I fully understand your frustrations inthebagbud. I am going to go back and basically start again to try to find what I am after with the FFB but will ignore the ovals for the time being and if I want to race on them will just have to accept that they are ballsed up as far as FFB is concerned. You can still race them in their current state but it’s basically having to do so as if you were using a non-FFB wheel which is quite difficult after so long using wheels with FFB. But I am not going to spend too much time on messing about with the wheel settings especially as it may change again when patch 4 comes out. I’ll just look to get some enjoyment out of it as is and take things as they come with future patches. I still believe that the game was released 6 months too early. I am not sure exactly how things work with SMS but some of the things that have caused problems should have been identified and resolved before release so I can only assume that their testing, particularly on console is not very stringent. They should take a leaf out of Codemasters book who opened their beta testing to a wider audience for this year’s release and as a result it was ready for both online and offline racing from the off with minimal problems and certainly nothing game breaking. I fully understand that SMS have a far harder task because of the volume of cars they include while Codies have only one formula (well more this year with the classics) but that is even more reason for them to have it much more fully tested before releasing it. I’m still hoping to get plenty of enjoyment out of it and really hope that patch 4 comes early in the New Year to fix more of the issues plaguing the game. From the forums plenty of people are saying the answer is the One X but that’s not really acceptable to expect people to go that route. I know that performance wise the new box makes a significant difference but how many of the problems effecting the game are actually resolved by the new console?
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Post by XRF HammerPH on Jan 9, 2018 11:40:03 GMT
Not much pCars 2 action here it seems. Have you given it any further time inthebagbud? I spent a bit more time with it after the holidays running done laps at Daytona Road Course, oval and then a bit more at Indianapolis. The road course is quite fun and the speedway is very different to Indy in that the FFB is much better there. Where Indy feels like you are running on glass Daytona has a lot of surface effects and as a result feels much more alive. I turned down the gain and volume as the effects with those turned up to 70 were way overpowered and caused the wheel to be very unstable and almost impossible to make any small adjustments. At about 35 things were much improved, not Assetto level yet but much better than before. I was able to enjoy some decent track time as a result. One thing that still has me scratching my head though is the invalidated laps I still get. As an example I make a mistake early on a lap but find that both that lap and the following one are invalidated. Very odd.
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Post by inthebagbud on Jan 9, 2018 19:43:24 GMT
Unfortunately XRF HammerPH you are correct and unfortunately until patch 4 drops with a possible fix for the FFB on Fanatec wheels its going to stay that way as it is pointless to even try and drive a car! For the moment I am enjoying Pcars 1 and I am actually thinking of jumping to PC as I have tried 2 other demo games and the Fanatec setup on xbox is rubbish , so I am thinking I am restricting my enjoyment by sticking with console . Its not a fully fledged plan but the seed has just been watered a little. I read a quote in an article today which perfectly summed up Pcars and went like this, Gartner's "Hype Cycle" - an exciting development enters a Technology Trigger phase as it gains lots of column inches; it soon reaches the Peak of Inflated Expectations based on that positive but unrealistic coverage; and then enters the Trough of Disillusionment, as people realise it cant possibly deliver on the hype. That is what happened with Pcasr1 and what SMS needed to do then with Pcasr2 is climb what Gartner dubs the Slope of Enlightenment, before reaching maturity at the Plateau of Productivity Unfortunately SMS are still climbing that slope and remains to be seen if they have enough traction to actually reach the famed Plateau!
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